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MSNBC's O'Donnell: Catholicism Was Once 'The Most Murderous Force on the Face of the Earth'
NewsBusters ^ | February 6, 2015 | Matthew Balan

Posted on 02/06/2015 3:17:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

first, this is patently a falsification of history

second, its history.... a way of avoiding the need to destroy the CURRENT THREAT to us

(which, incidentally, is not from the Church)


21 posted on 02/06/2015 3:38:52 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..😜)
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To: Impy

Lawrence has all the freedom in the world to go to Iran and speak just as freely as he speaks on MSNBC.


22 posted on 02/06/2015 3:39:13 PM PST by alstewartfan (When I looked the sky was empty. I suppose you never saw the landing lights. Al Stewart)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

23 posted on 02/06/2015 3:40:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary men)
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To: Slyfox
"1500 people died during the entire Inquisition and the Church did not put them to death, the State did."

I have heard higher figures - 8,000 to 20,000 - over a period of several hundred years, but whatever the figure is, it is a tiny fraction of the "millions" figure that is often cited in popular literature and press accounts.

The figure is also far less than the number killed in the first year of the French Revolution, and a small fraction of the number killed by leftist governments and leftist revolutions in the 20th century, or by Muslim extremists in the last 20 years.
24 posted on 02/06/2015 3:41:08 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Talk about a headline that will cause consternation at FR.

Side with Obama, or defend Catholicism. Hmmm. What’s a “bible believing Christian” to do? /sarc


25 posted on 02/06/2015 3:41:21 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Which is why so many churches, especially Evangelical and Pentecostal, have armed ushers, deacons/trustees, ministers and etc. Trust me on that one, I have friends in those types of congregations.


26 posted on 02/06/2015 3:41:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One would have thought that the libdork would have at least figured out what caused the crusades, but then again, libs aren’t too quick.


27 posted on 02/06/2015 3:41:23 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everytime when I read something more how Leftists defend and excuse the barbarianism of Islam by “Blaming the Catholic Church” for something that happened 1000 years ago. This writer is saying Islam is justified in their actions because “Timmy did it” in 1092. With this kind of reasoning nations should just rise up against other nations and slaughter entire nations because “Timmy did it” in 1500 BC.


28 posted on 02/06/2015 3:43:46 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: molson209

THE MOST VILE EXAMPLE OF CHRISTIANOPHIA AND ANTI-CATHOLIC BIGOTRY CONCOCTED IN THE WHITE HOUSE USING HIS LACAYS IN THE M.S.M.


29 posted on 02/06/2015 3:43:46 PM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: workerbee

Anything that Catholicism or Protestantism did or didn’t do that might reach the levels of current day Islam happened so far back as to be the mists of time. The crusade against the Cathars, not the Inquistion, is what pops up in my mind.


30 posted on 02/06/2015 3:44:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stuff this up your crescents, infidels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNY2fi5U_fg


31 posted on 02/06/2015 3:44:59 PM PST by Argus
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To: Rocky

I hate Islamic Nazis.


32 posted on 02/06/2015 3:45:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I heard the figure of 1500 from a scholar and historian on Catholic radio this morning.


33 posted on 02/06/2015 3:46:39 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lawrence's meltdown, liar liar dirty liar. LOL!

Lawrence O'Donnell attacks John O'Neill

34 posted on 02/06/2015 3:47:08 PM PST by jazusamo (0bama to go 'full-Mussolini' after elections: Mark Levin....and the turkey has.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
 What was the answer to then Radical Islam?  Medievel Christianity and it was absolutely necessary.

I make no distinction about Muslims.  Peacable, indifferent, co-conspirators and vile actors.

Islam is a disease and it won't be long before the world becomes the cure.

For the so called peacable Muslims, this is their problem to clean up if they truly want to be inclusive, accepting/accepted and live in peace amongst the whole human species, occupying the same planet.

They can work toward to solving the perception and reality problems and my guys don’t have to get killed trying to attrit them and remove any global religious ambitions they have.

Hindus have about 1.5 billion adherents and they don’t mess with us or anyone else.

“Nothing” from the 500 million Buddhists either.

But, Islam has been at war with the rest of humanity for 1,400 years and I am intolerant?

How so, jerk offs?

The Crusades? Christianities answer to Islam taking over the Holy Lands, Portugal and Spain.

Battle of Tours? Held Islam in check for its geographic expansion.

Queen Isabella finally, after three requests gave Christopher Columbus the money and ships to find an alternative route around The Silk Road, which was controlled by the Muslims.

In 1491 the Muslim hordes were finally removed from Europe and as a coming out party, looking for new wealth and worlds to expand the empire and trade, Chris went in search of that Alternative.

Thank God, he made a mistake and discovered America instead.

For the next 300 years, any expeditions for trade were held for ransom and the men carrying treasures, in search of revenues for their respective countries held as hostages.

Any country who sent ships into Muslim waters was taken and demand was made by the Barbary Pirates and Imams for “restitution”.

WTF were they willing to trade of value for anything we had of value? Nothing.

But, if you wanted to get your stuff across sea and then transported over land, you were going to pay heavily and the whole thing really was a lose/lose.

Now, on the day of inauguration for Thomas Jefferson he received a letter of demand for $1 million per year. Our men, treasures and ships would be given right of passage if the demand was met.

This demand was being given to every nation at that time.

Well, we had just smoked the worlds most powerful armed force and Jefferson was in no mood to be pushed around.

He sent a letter back saying we were coming and while the letter was in transport he directed the ships Enterprise and Constitution be built.

He sent those two ships to Tripoli, along with an Armada.

Without firing a shot Tripoli saw the wisdom of not engaging our ships and relented.

American then doesn’t hear a peep from Muslims until the Robert Kennedy assassination.

Around the time of Jimmy Carter Muslims are again on the rise, very much agitated and on the move around the world.

They overthrow the Shah of Iran and take our American Brothers and Sisters hostage.

Reagan comes into office and Iran must’ve got the message, as they released them freely.

For the last 35 years all we’ve heard is their belligerent Bull Shiite.

Over the last 15 I have heard over and over how they are “hurt” that we, the infidels, are in their lands.

Well, D***kheads. We made those lands, helped you explore, tried to set you up with modernity and you have been resisting the whole time.

Even now, I have idiot fellow Americans who think we should try to reason with them and understand them.

I don’t have any capacity to understand killers and will not waste time trying to break bread with them, while they are looking for the opportunity to break open my head.

Burning a man alive?  In the name of your Gawd?  Uhm, FK allah.

I make no apologies for my views. They are based on observable facts and an extraordinarily long period of religious intolerance, belligerence and outright desire to dominate the rest of us.

Watching in real time the events of the last 15 years ought to inform your conscience and reason should be the basis of your action.

Not some feigned emotion hoping the world will be any different than it currently is.

Those millions in Africa hacked to death for the glory of Allah? That’s a good thing right? Because a bunch of dead Christians is better than peace, the right of the individual to live, pursue happiness and improve the lot of their family.

Boko Haram is more important than 300 little girls? Well, you make sense more and more.

Al Qaeda’s observed acts, stated goals and roach like existence of glorifying death and a heaven that debases women, objectifies them and turns the idea of hope of eternal life into some macabre whorehouse. That idea is worth my respect? The hell it is.

And the latest franchise of ISIL/ISIS? Hacking the heads off reporters and the latest some Japanese guys. In addition to murdering women and children because they didn’t conform to their interpretation of Islam?

Oh yeah. I feel you man. They are beautiful people.

Christians in Iraq? Well, not anymore. The oldest churches, some nearly 2,000 years old have been destroyed.

Christians and their artifacts are now fairy tales in the so called “Cradle of Civilization”.

Sohhhh, FK you and and Islam...

For those who can stomach watching the Jordanian man burn alive, here is a link via Pamela Geller:

http://pamelageller.com/2015/02/watch-islamic-state-video-of-pilot-being-burnt-alive-jordan-vows-revenge.html/

Islam is a disease, eventually the world needs to be the cure...

 

35 posted on 02/06/2015 3:48:18 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: alstewartfan
This is something I truly believe ISIS MUST be dealt with by Muslim nations.

We (USA) should provide the munitions to those who have shown they are serious about taking ISIS out (eg, Kurds, Jordanians, etc)

36 posted on 02/06/2015 3:49:03 PM PST by mware
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I've sort of been bombing threads with this link, but I believe it's too important not to. PLEASE read:

More Delusional Apologetics for Islam

Excerpt: Unlike the Christian Bible, which is the product of an ongoing spiritual inspiration of humans existing in time, the Koran is the pre-existing, uncreated, eternal word of Allah, dictated to Mohammed. It is perfect as written, just as the life and sayings of Mohammed provide the perfect, timeless guide for every dimension of life, including law, economics, politics, and family life. The role of interpretive exegesis or allegory in traditional Islam, then, is vastly less significant than it has been in Christianity. Any Muslim today who desires to reinterpret, say, jihad, or relations with non-Muslims, or illiberal shari’a law, will thus find it difficult, if not impossible, to change the plain meaning of the scriptures as understood consistently by Muslims for 14 centuries.

37 posted on 02/06/2015 3:49:35 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, Jeez... I wish I had knowed that before I decided the “Islamo” thing has been one of the most dispicable and sickest political systems for world conquest since the Nazis. I feel so bad about this now, having disparaged them and even made pictures of the Pppppppp-P-wurd!!!

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THE PPPppppp....


38 posted on 02/06/2015 3:49:52 PM PST by Reverend Saltine (Saltines are dry and make you thirsty. And then you want more and you get thirsty-er....)
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To: Slyfox
Benjamin Netanyahu's Father wrote a book on the Spanish Inquisition:The Origins of the Inquisition, in Fifteenth Century Spain.

If anyone wants my Copy FReep mail with a bid, first edition Hard cover. Opens your eyes.

39 posted on 02/06/2015 3:50:32 PM PST by Little Bill (EVICT Queen Jean)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My first immigrant ancestor got chased out of Switzerland by Catholics and some of them met some Catholics who got run out of Scotland by Protestants.

THEY DECIDED THAT BUSINESS WAS NONSENSE!

40 posted on 02/06/2015 3:51:22 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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