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Putin-backed rebels just made a huge move right under Europe's nose
Business Insider Yahoo ^ | 02/06/2015 | Elena Holodny and Michael B Kelley

Posted on 02/06/2015 3:13:34 PM PST by Rusty0604

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To: drypowder

You guys are so far gone in being against America that it is like the radical left of the 1980s all over again.


21 posted on 02/06/2015 4:13:23 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: GeronL

Never mind the Oligarch’s, the Mafia’s, and that it has been that way since the day the Soviet Union fell, LONG before Putin took over, right??

And you wonder why no one buys that BS after a year of it?


22 posted on 02/06/2015 4:13:34 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: ansel12

Obama is not Reagan.

He is the radical Left.

We should thank G-d he wasn’t in power in the 1980s.


23 posted on 02/06/2015 4:15:04 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Obama is too Reagan like for you evidently, you want him to be weaker than he is, not stronger.


24 posted on 02/06/2015 4:19:18 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: tcrlaf

Galicia belongs to Europe. The rest does not.

It’s time to redo Stalin’s territorial expansions of 1939-45.


25 posted on 02/06/2015 4:21:21 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: tcrlaf

The oligarchs looted Ukraine and left it bankrupt.

Russia had nothing to do with it but its still getting blamed.

Much of the current mess can be laid to rest on the leaders of the main Repblics at Belovezhskaya Pushcha who unilaterally dissolved the Soviet Union.

They whipped up nationalism to accrue power for themselves. When the “big country” disintegrated, it was a miracle it didn’t result in widespread bloodshed.

For that hasty decision, the peoples of the former Soviet Union are still paying the price today.


26 posted on 02/06/2015 4:22:13 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ansel12

Don’t you?

He is the anti-Reagan.


27 posted on 02/06/2015 4:23:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Jim Noble

Ukraine could be partitioned between Poland and Russia. Much of what is now western Ukraine used to be part of Poland before the Hitler-Stalin pact.

Undoing it would restore stability in Europe.


28 posted on 02/06/2015 4:26:23 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Germany is a key for Putin.

The Kaliningrad oblast is a huge resource drain. Poland needs a payoff if East Prussia is to be revived.

It’s not that hard to see a deal here.


29 posted on 02/06/2015 4:29:24 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: goldstategop

Are you a little off? Of course I don’t agree with you, Reagan would be much more aggressive and firm in stopping Putin’s war.

You are against Reagan like firmness, and want Obama to be even weaker in submission to Russia.

Obama is too Reagan like for you evidently, you want him to be weaker than he is, not stronger.


30 posted on 02/06/2015 4:32:00 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: goldstategop

The Crimea was given to Ukraine by Russia; of course that was when it was all USSR.


31 posted on 02/06/2015 4:44:27 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: tcrlaf

lets sink more money into failed states! Worked great with Somalia


32 posted on 02/06/2015 4:53:07 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: ansel12

I meant the opposite.

Of course Obama the golf putter is no match for a guy who gallops on a bear.


33 posted on 02/06/2015 4:55:58 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

So you want Obama to take a hard line against this invasion like Reagan would?


34 posted on 02/06/2015 5:01:10 PM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: drypowder

Obama doesn’t want to arm Ukraine. If he did he would have done it already.


35 posted on 02/06/2015 5:09:35 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: GeronL

Welll, there is certainly history, ugly history, to support your statement.


36 posted on 02/06/2015 5:11:23 PM PST by dmz
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To: drypowder

Putin’s not going to nuke the US. I think he likes the situation just as it is with the US neutralized by having a moronic koranic potted plant in the oval office.


37 posted on 02/06/2015 5:13:57 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Rusty0604

I today declare that I am restoring the Indian lands of the 17th century. You have been officially warned!

Makes as much sense as some dip-stick in the Ukraine stating that he speaks for the nation, or even part of it.

He’s a blow-hard! End of story.


39 posted on 02/06/2015 5:32:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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To: goldstategop

I guess the same should be said for the United States then. A lot of people speaking a foreign language here these days. Are we going to carve up our nation like we demand the Ukraine carve up it’s nation?

The Ukraine government is the final word here, no matter how we like to determine their future for them.


40 posted on 02/06/2015 5:34:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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