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Horse Pucky from Obama
National Review ^ | 2/6/2015 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 02/06/2015 8:12:27 AM PST by Servant of the Cross

The president’s comparison of Christianity to radical Islam defies logic.

On Tuesday, the so-called Islamic State released a slickly produced video showing a Jordanian pilot being burned alive in a steel cage. On Wednesday, the United Nations issued a report detailing various “mass executions of boys, as well as reports of beheadings, crucifixions of children, and burying children alive” at the hands of the Islamic State.

And on Thursday, President Obama seized the opportunity of the National Prayer Breakfast to forthrightly criticize the “terrible deeds” . . . committed “in the name of Christ.”

“Humanity has been grappling with these questions throughout human history,” Obama said, referring to the ennobling aspects of religion as well as the tendency of people to “hijack” religions for murderous ends.

And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.

Obama’s right. Terrible things have been done in the name of Christianity. I have yet to meet a Christian who denies this.

But, as odd as it may sound for a guy named Goldberg to point it out, the Inquisition and the Crusades aren’t the indictments Obama thinks they are. For starters, the Crusades — despite their terrible organized cruelties — were a defensive war.

“The Crusades could more accurately be described as a limited, belated and, in the last analysis, ineffectual response to the jihad — a failed attempt to recover by a Christian holy war what had been lost to a Muslim holy war,” writes Bernard Lewis, the greatest living English-language historian of Islam.

As for the Inquisition, it needs to be clarified that there was no single “Inquisition,” but many. And most were not particularly nefarious. For centuries, whenever the Catholic Church launched an inquiry or investigation, it mounted an “inquisition,” which means pretty much the same thing.

Historian Thomas Madden, director of the Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies at Saint Louis University, writes that the “Inquisition was not born out of desire to crush diversity or oppress people; it was rather an attempt to stop unjust executions.”

In medieval Europe, heresy was a crime against the state, Madden explains. Local nobles, often greedy, illiterate, and eager to placate the mob, gleefully agreed to execute people accused of witchcraft or some other forms of heresy. By the 1100s, such accusations were causing grave injustices (in much the same way that apparatchiks in Communist countries would level charges of disloyalty in order to have rivals “disappeared”).

“The Catholic Church’s response to this problem was the Inquisition,” Madden explains, “first instituted by Pope Lucius III in 1184.”

I cannot defend everything done under the various Inquisitions — especially in Spain — because some of it was indefensible. But there’s a very important point to make here that transcends the scoring of easy, albeit deserved, points against Obama’s approach to Islamic extremism (which he will not call Islamic): Christianity, even in its most terrible days, even under the most corrupt popes, even during the most unjustifiable wars, was indisputably a force for the improvement of man.

Christianity ended greater barbarisms under pagan Rome. The church often fell short of its ideals — which all human things do — but its ideals were indisputably a great advance for humanity. Similarly, while some rationalized slavery and Jim Crow in the U.S. by invoking Christianity, it was ultimately the ideals of Christianity itself that dealt the fatal blow to those institutions. Just read any biography of Martin Luther King Jr. if you don’t believe me.

When Obama alludes to the evils of medieval Christianity, he fails to acknowledge the key word: “medieval.” What made medieval Christianity backward wasn’t Christianity but medievalism.

It is perverse that Obama feels compelled to lecture the West about not getting too judgmental on our “high horse” over radical Islam’s medieval barbarism in 2015 because of Christianity’s medieval barbarism in 1215.

It’s also insipidly hypocritical. President Obama can’t bring himself to call the Islamic State “Islamic,” but he’s happy to offer a sermon about Christianity’s alleged crimes at the beginning of the last millennium.

We are all descended from cavemen who broke the skulls of their enemies with rocks for fun or profit. But that hardly mitigates the crimes of a man who does the same thing today. I see no problem judging the behavior of the Islamic State and its apologists from the vantage point of the West’s high horse, because we’ve earned the right to sit in that saddle.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0bama; christianophobia; horsepuck; jonahgoldberg; natlprayerbreakfast; obamaantichristian; obamacrusades; prayerbreakfast
Islam has always been the aggressor against the free world. The Crusades were a defensive war that followed Islam atrocities against mankind, just like those that ISIS is doing today.
1 posted on 02/06/2015 8:12:27 AM PST by Servant of the Cross
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2 posted on 02/06/2015 8:16:04 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Servant of the Cross

The people that go to Obama speeches should bring a Shovel ,LOL


3 posted on 02/06/2015 8:16:22 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Servant of the Cross

OBAMA’S CHRISTIANOPHOBIA

Obama, in another despicable attack to the Christians and to America’s Judeo-Christian foundation that made this nation a beacon of freedom and prosperity, tried to equate the debauchery that characterized Islam since its foundation to this day, to the crimes committed by Christians 700 years ago.

Obama knows quite well the bloody and horrendous history of Islam. He is well verse in the “holy” Koran and Muhammad teachings. Born and educated as Muslim he never converted to Christianity. Islam condemns Apostasy by death, unless is a false (taqiyya) conversion aimed to further the expansion of the Islam.

According to the Koran :

Quran (8:12) - “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (9:5) - “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.”

According to this verse: save yourself from being cut to pieces by converting to Islam. Extreme violence manifests in the Five Pillars of Islam. Once Muslims gain numbers and more power, they violently kill those unbelievers who refuse to convert.

Obama always tries to shield the atrocities committed in the name of Islam.

As Reverend Graham further said in response to President Barack Obama drawing a parallel between the barbaric acts of the Islamic State today with actions by Christians during the Crusades, which ended 700 years ago, evangelist Franklin Graham said there was a difference between Jesus Christ who “taught peace “ and did “not take life” versus Mohammed, who “was a warrior and killed many innocent people.”

Reverend Graham further said that, “True followers of Christ emulate Christ – true followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.”

TheReligionofPeace.com
Islamic Terror Attacks on Christians
(Since 9/11)

This is a list of targeted acts of terrorism on Christian civilians and church workers by religious Muslims since September 11th, 2001. These attacks have nothing to do with war, combat or insurgency. The victims are innocent Christians who were specifically targeted and abused solely on account of their faith by those who claim their own religion as a motive.

There may be a few anomalies on the list, as it is compiled by keyword search from our main database. Neither is this a complete account of Islamic terror attacks on Christians since much of the violence goes unreported.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/ChristianAttacks.htm
Debauchery is at the core of Islam, since its foundation.


4 posted on 02/06/2015 8:17:17 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Our dear leader is simply a horses ass.


5 posted on 02/06/2015 8:22:18 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: KeyLargo

yeah..


6 posted on 02/06/2015 8:25:35 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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Thanks for this informative post. The words of Reverend Graham need to be repeated ....

... there IS(was) a difference between Jesus Christ who “taught peace" and did “not take life” versus Mohammed, who “was a warrior and killed many innocent people." "True followers of Christ emulate Christ – true followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed."

7 posted on 02/06/2015 8:29:15 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

This is an extremely well-written rebuttal to Obama, and to the rest of the “Christians Did It Too” chorus.


8 posted on 02/06/2015 8:30:48 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”
9 posted on 02/06/2015 8:44:00 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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“I see no problem judging the behavior of the Islamic State and its apologists from the vantage point of the West’s high horse, because we’ve earned the right to sit in that saddle.”

Well stated.


10 posted on 02/06/2015 8:45:16 AM PST by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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The UN issued a statement. Oooooh, that’ll teach ISIS.


11 posted on 02/06/2015 9:17:58 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Servant of the Cross

Excellent commentary from Goldberg. Thanks for posting it.

> “We are all descended from cavemen who broke the skulls of their enemies with rocks for fun or profit. But that hardly mitigates the crimes of a man who does the same thing today.”

Yes, there’s no excuse for this heinous barbarism today because practically all societies are linked in communications and are able to estimate truth more accurately. Although censorship still reigns in certain pockets, there are forces of communication that can pierce veils of silence and censorship to reach people that seek to discern reality from propaganda.


12 posted on 02/06/2015 9:21:53 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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