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US Navy's 6th Generation Fighter Jets Will Be Slow and Unstealthy
The National Interest ^ | Feb 5th, 2015 | Zachary Keck

Posted on 02/05/2015 3:59:46 PM PST by Mariner

The U.S. Navy’s next generation air superiority fighter will not be “super-duper fast” or employ much in the way of stealth, a senior navy official announced on Wednesday.

Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert, the Navy’s top officer, divulged some details about the Navy’s so-called Next Generation Air Dominance F/A-XX fighter jet during a speech at an industry conference.

“I don’t see that it’s going to be super-duper fast, because you can’t outrun missiles.” Greenert said, the Washington Examiner reported. “And you can’t become so stealthy that you become invisible — you are going to generate a signature of some sort,” he also noted, adding “You know that stealth may be overrated…. If something moves fast through the air and disrupts molecules in the air and puts out heat – I don’t care how cool the engine can be – it’s going to be detectable.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: navy; stealth
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To: ConservativeInPA

122nd Fighter Wing is flying them in the ME as we type.


21 posted on 02/05/2015 4:49:47 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Mariner
Where do we get these EFing idiots? What he proposes should be called an Air Inferiority Fighter. Slow and easily targeted, yep, that'll win wars.
22 posted on 02/05/2015 4:51:59 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Axenolith
This is what I was referring to: Pentagon Still Pushing To Retire A-10 and Close Bases. I was incorrect in stating that they were retired.
23 posted on 02/05/2015 4:59:54 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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To: Colorado Doug
"Where do we get these EFing idiots? What he proposes should be called an Air Inferiority Fighter. Slow and easily targeted, yep, that'll win wars. "

My buddies in the business say they're SURPRISED to see a plan for another manned fighter of any variety.

The plan as they know it is to leverage existing and planned airframes (F-15, 18, 22 and 35) with substantially upgraded RADAR/DATALINK combo.

The datalink portion will be used to control SWARMS of UAVs.

Up to a dozen expendables per manned aircraft.

Multiple purposes in each swarm...from attack to air superiority.

Maybe slow and visible won't matter.

24 posted on 02/05/2015 5:00:09 PM PST by Mariner (First the GOP must die. Everything else comes after that.)
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To: Mariner
Prototype:


25 posted on 02/05/2015 5:03:32 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Hey! Where are his red PJs?


26 posted on 02/05/2015 5:12:42 PM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: Mariner
I have never liked the F-35. And I agree: stealth technology is losing its edge.

I would set about building newer airframes of our 4th Generation aircraft for the time being.

27 posted on 02/05/2015 5:13:05 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: Mariner

The big aerospace companies are gearing up for the next long-range manned bomber program... apparently all those B1 and B2 bombers are virtually obsolete now, or so they and the Air Force would have us think. If they have their way we’ll spend hundreds of billions of dollars developing a plane that we’ll probably only build a few dozen of, at most.


28 posted on 02/05/2015 5:30:01 PM PST by LiveFree99
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To: Mariner

Not all, but some, future operations will be able to be done by stealth unmanned aircraft. better less radar cross section designs may be able to be done without a pilot area and make their signatures quite small.


29 posted on 02/05/2015 5:45:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: glorgau

cheaper more effective a10s had to go b/c theymscared the enemy too much, did too much damage and protected our guys too much, fo obama’s tastes.


30 posted on 02/05/2015 5:47:53 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Lysandru

i liked them, but they’ve just taken way to long with the program it’s now outdated.

i’ve watched the series where boeing and lockheed battled for the contract. i believe they gave it to lockheed to keep them employed. if boeing would have had their new front end on their plane and had testing done they would have had no excuse to let lockheed win.

the problem is that the winner of the contract was based on the vtol version. not the regular version. trying to do too much with one plane.


31 posted on 02/05/2015 5:51:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Lysandru

China hacked our 50 TB plans and built a plane with two engines and lots of fuel and armament capacity.


32 posted on 02/05/2015 8:11:39 PM PST by mcshot (I pray someone comes forth with the strength, fortitude and burning desire to save our Republic)
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To: Mariner
Maybe this will help.

"'I don’t see that it’s going to be super-duper fast,' [B-E-C-A-U-S-E Y-O-U C-A-N-'T O-U-T-R-U-N M-I-S-S-I-L-E-S]. Greenert said"


33 posted on 02/05/2015 8:29:44 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Tenacious 1
F-22's have been flying over the Middle East for some time now. It has been reported here at Free Republic.

freerepublic.com

F-22's have also already been to Asia.

pacaf.af.mil

34 posted on 02/05/2015 10:38:31 PM PST by Daaave ("The flesh eating jinn of Komari.")
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To: jpsb
Bigger, Slower, More expensive?

Well, you think your wife is bad, wait til I tell ya about my buddy's...

35 posted on 02/06/2015 2:39:07 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: jpsb

No. For one it is not bigger, but the F-35 is considered 5th generation. The article is predicting 6th gen.


36 posted on 02/06/2015 5:39:14 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Mariner

Just don’t take 20 years to bring it to the fleet.

Try not to have it be obsolete before flight testing is over.


37 posted on 02/06/2015 8:12:04 AM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: GeronL

Alex Vraciu, Hoosier WWII fighter pilot, dead at age 96
Dawn Mitchell, dawn.mitchell@indystar.com 7:05 p.m. EST February 3, 2015
Beyond-Darkness-June-20-1944

Alex Vraciu, one of the most acclaimed World War II Navy fighter pilots, died January 29, 2015 at the age of 96.

Born Alexander Vraciu in East Chicago, Ind., the youngest of two children to Romanian immigrants. After graduating from DePauw University in 1941, he joined the Navy where he earned his wings. He flew Hellcats in the Pacific and was a terror for the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service.

Vraciu spent five months as a wingman to Medal of Honor recipient Ed “Butch” O’Hare. Vraciu’s greatest mission came June 19, 1944 in what became known as the “Marianas Turkey Shoot”. Vraciu engaged an attacking Japanese air squadron 25 miles west of the USS Lexington and shot down 6 Japanese dive bombers in just eight minutes with only 360 rounds of ammunition.

Alex Vraciu ended World War II as the Navy’s fourth-ranking flying ace with 19 enemy aircraft shot down in flight and 21 destroyed on the ground.

Despite arguments from historians and politicians, Vraciu was twice denied the Medal of Honor. He was nominated by his commanding officer for the Medal of Honor during the war, but an admiral denied it. He was awarded the Navy Cross.

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/02/03/alex-vraciu-acclaimed-fighter-pilot-dead/22800749/


38 posted on 02/07/2015 5:43:00 AM PST by KeyLargo
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