Posted on 02/01/2015 6:34:49 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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no, what’s stupid and ridiculous is pulling some retarded, non-responsive, and unproductive crack about K street out of your tailpipe because you think your internets kung fu is sUpEr sTrOnG.
you need a damn valium.
So do liquor store owners need to stop being state thugs and quite carding/id-ing people? Hell, I need to show ID to by decongestants. But in your upside down world we cant identify citizenship of some one working here? What f-ing planet do Libertarians live on anyway?
The republicans depend on money from those who want to employ them. So here is what you can do: people who support your issue need to make up for the shortfall in donations from people who will stop supporting the republicans when they start deporting all illegals. It is all about donations for campaigns. If you are willing to devote your time and resources to make this happen, then I am with you. Otherwise, it's a fantasy list and will not happen.
It really is easy to spout off lists, but the reality is much more sobering.
The fact is the people and voters who support current policy are much more vocal and activist with time and money than the voters who support what you wish. Until your side becomes more vocal and much more activist, nothing will change. Until your side can primary scores and scores of republican congressmen and win, nothing will change (one here and one there is meaningless). Until the politicians understand that the only way they can stay in Congress is by supporting what you want, then nothing is going to change. From the evidence I have seen, the same ones get returned to office over and over again, so nothing changes.
It is appealing to believe that our elected politicians will vote to do the right thing regardless of circumstances, but that era has passed.
you either can’t read or can’t comprehend the point. it’s just not a libertarian position.
whatever the case, I don’t deal with overwrought 4$$holes.
Republicans should rewrite their rules ad allow only three persons to run for the nomination. This is getting ridiculous. Let’s have a preliminary runoff of some sort to determine the top three candidates and then let them make their case.
I would definitely support that, but there would also have to be other steps taken in conjunction.
The fact that our government is letting this country be overrun and swarmed by illegal aliens is intolerable and outrageous.
One by one is how you start, and yes that really is what i am advocating, because I am tired of people saying that we are never going to instantly get rid of 10 million illegals.
It’s like, no sh*t, we aren’t, now let’s start at the beginning doing what we should have been doing this entire time.
It’s the same argument the White Hut keeps making against drilling for oil. You’re not going to drop prices in the next three years by starting to drill today...
And then they just keep saying that and no one ever starts drilling.
It’s a non-starter.
It is an excellent point that you make. It seems self evident to me that this is how we need to approach this problem.
If you look at Eisenhower’s record, he was a RINO. But then, that was pretty much mainstream back then. What we now call “RINO” in economic terms would be fixation on deficits and insistence - once the Democrats had raised spending - on raising taxes to compensate. It was only in the 1970s that Jack Kemp started the movement for lower tax rates irrespective of deficits.It is a game of “Chicken” from the Democrat POV; Democrats propose spending and Republicans respond that we will not go along with tax rate increases even if that means inflation. But the Eisenhower-Ford-Dole approach got us 40 years in the wilderness as far as the majority in the House of Representatives goes.
And wrt SCOTUS, Eisenhower nominated William Brennan - and that was not an accident. During the 1960 presidential election campaign Eisenhower could have helped Nixon a lot - but Eisenhower was “above" that. Which gave us President Kennedy, and the stomach-turning Bay of Pigs fiasco leading up to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Eisenhower was firm in his foreign policy dealings, and the Interstate Highway system was good.
Otherwise (in historical retrospect, at the time I was an advocate of his, tho too young to vote) not so much.
We should also refuse to allow New Hampshire and Iowa to steer the nomination towards their own preferences. Neither state represents the mainstream of the party.
To be fair, the order of conventions ought to be rotated every election, not consistently leaving New Hampshire and Iowa in a position of undeserved influence.
Please keep your hopeless, gloomy and surrender outlook to yourself.
Thanks, Sunshine!
And I don’t disagree with that....what I disagree with are these websites and radio personalities and others who slam everyone who doesn’t “pretend” to be in favor of immediate deportation of everybody....because they all know it’s not doable.
I’m more talking about the political ignorance of the reality.
FOIA'd govt data exposes shadow immigration system... Developing...
America is being destroyed by stealth. If Americans refuse to Accept Socialism/Communism, then we will just bring in new Americans that will accept it. You will no longer have to do the work of ICE but you will no longer have a business either.
Well, even I am not in favor of “immediate deportation”, because clearly, that isn’t possible, and even if it was possible, it’s not the right way to do it.
You simply do not win a race all at once. This is more a matter of our country behaving in the proper manner over a long period of time in order to show that we know exactly what to do, and how to do it, and we are doing it, and we are going to keep doing it.
Sadly, I don’t really believe that anyone in government wants to reverse this current situation at all. I do believe that our current situation on this is the result of a scheme.
Now maybe I am wrong on that, but I don’t think so. Our government isn’t stupid, it’s evil.
I agree with all of that too.....esp on the evil part.
And yes, this is the result of 60,70 years - maybe more - of a porous border. The best/only way to deport any meaningful amount is to secure the border and cut off government hand outs. Then the worst of the lot would self deport.
As for the jobs, until we stop the federal safety net from being a hammock, we are not going to win this battle. And I do not think business owners should be forced to do the damned governments job.
Yep.
I would really like a candidate to address this issue in realistic terms, instead of the nonsense we have been getting on this thus far pretty much from everyone.
It tells me and shows me that they are not serious. This is not a difficult issue to understand or frame.
But it is if one is purposely being dishonest about it, and that is what makes me mad.
Now certainly will give Walker an audience on this, but I want him to know that I am not stupid on this, and if he tries to BS his way through it, I’ll know.
And that will not do well as far as earning my vote goes.
I am so tired of being lied to by republicans.
Think back to last cycle’s Republican debates on immigration. Rick Perry’s “heartless” comment was awful - but so were Michelle Bachmann from lily white Minnesota and Rick Santorum from 1500 miles away when they lectured Perry on the border and immigration. In response, Perry then insulted Mitt on who was cutting his grass. Meanwhile, there was this rush to support the candidate who was the most extreme on deportation plans. That’s absurd, because those extremes are not going to happen for the reasons you and I have kicked around.
These people too are lying to you. As for Walker, I don’t know enough about his stance to comment yet. He’s from Wisconsin, not like he’s had to deal with it a whole lot yet. I’ll give him some time to formulate his opinion on this.
really?
At that level, I don’t think I would support someone who hasn’t formed an opinion on one of the major issues facing this country.
That’s your right, but the early opinions formed by Bachmann and Santorum were absurd and unrealistic. Do you prefer that? He’s been GOVERNOR of a state a LONG WAY from the border, and one with a small immigration population.
I’m not a Walker supporter - but I don’t expect a gov from the midwest to be as up on immigration as I do a gov from Texas or a Senator from Texas. It’s just common sense.
It’s not like Walker hasn’t been damned busy fighting off the unions....
Eisenhower was from Pennsylvania and he figured out operation “wetback”.
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