Posted on 02/01/2015 9:50:49 AM PST by Kaslin
Ethanol bad, Butanol good
Forcing peeps to burn ethanol in gasoline fueled vehicles is retarded.
OK, then: if there is in fact a glut of ethanol, as this article implies, why does E85 cost so freakin’ much? At present, it’s more expensive than gasoline while driving a car only about 2/3 as far.
Don’t mistake my comments above, however, as a defense of the ethanol mandate: it was a bad idea and bad policy from day one, and its principal effect has been to cause skyrocketing land values in Iowa, while transferring money from the pockets of taxpayers and consumers to farmers and big ag conglomerates.
I doubt ADM will allow this bill to see the light of day.
Ethanol can be made from coal 30% cheaper than corn. Ammonia can be mixed with gas, and that can be made with baseload off peak electricity.
Rule #1: Don’t burn your food.
There is only one gas station that has ethanol free gas in my area. The performance difference is amazing. The stupid “check engine” light goes off. I get better gas mileage, better performance, and it doesn’t destroy the seals that were engineered for 100% gasoline. Don’t even get me started on the motorcycles. My Ducati feels like a shopping cart when I am forced to fill with that E10 crap. A bunch of stupid dumb legislators know nothing but decide everything. The corn (ADM has their fingers in every orifice of DC) lobbyists are crooks and cheaters. Ethanol is for drinking and corn is for eating.
Lets just hope that some genius doesn’t find a way to use Beef, Chicken, Pork. Lamb..or Fish.. as automotive fuel.
Aw geeze, I got here too late.
Not only can we feed all of AMerica, we can feed them with food produced at the lowest prices since the beginning of time.
We also exports mountains of all sorts of foods, including grains converted to meat. Boatload after boat load of meat headed elsewhere.
And we still have enough to burn to heat our home, fuel our cars.
AND we still have mountains of it left over.
With the new conversion plant nearby, he made a killing.
He might have to go back to potatoes and peas.
Certainly not a bad guy...just doing what he could to make a buck.
And while every car built since the E10 mandate took effect has been designed with its corrosive and solvent effects in mind, classic cars, motorcycles, boats, etc, are all at risk with the polluted PC gasoline.
I think both of them will look to their bank accounts before that gets pushed.
I just found out from a buddy that temps below 50 degrees will result in problems starting your car if you're running that crap.........
Good for him, and I hold him no grudge, but I certainly have no sympathy whatsoever for him and the thousands of others like him; if you live by the political whim, you can die by the political whim.
Interesting facts about Flexfuel vehicles that use E85 Here
Primarily a puller of end dump trailers, I have days during the winter that require pulling stepdeck and flatbed trailers, some of which is farm equipment related. Recent trips up into Wisconsin, Iowa, and Minnesota have reminded me of the increase of land formerly used for pasture and/or hay that is now used for corn and soybeans. Even with the advancements in minimum tillage technology, soil erosion is still a major problem.
The USDA labels certain ground as ‘highly erodible’, but allows crops if primary tillage practices (moldboard plow, dick harrow) are not used. They even allow the elimination of water ways if those guide lines are followed.
Problem is that when the quick downpours happen, the rush of water cuts underneath the plant residue on the surface, making ever larger ruts and gulleys. Then the farmer is forced to plow dirt into the gulleys to smooth things up again. That is necessary to maintain passage of the equipment as it passes through the field, but it wipes out the plant residue in those areas for the immediate future, making even more erosion possible during the next downpour.
There has been a lot of ground placed in CRP (more landownwer welfare), but ethanol has been a artificial growth hormone to the ag industry. The land is getting the worst end of the deal.
I thought it ironic that the very people who have forced this mandate on the rest of us recognize the effects and try to insulate themselves from it.
CA sees ethanol as a replacement to MTBE, which was used to create their broad range of botique fuels. Not sure what they will do without ethanol. I wish all the CA regulators would just walk off a steep cliff and give us a real break.
Never be misled: at core, the Sierra Clubbies and other green weenies are core are opposed to all human economic activity, and whenever they support one energy mandate (e.g., ethanol fuels, wind, solar, etc.) it's because they think that energy is totally economically non-viable, and will thus simply result in people not driving, not using electricity, etc.
They'll never be happy until we all live in mud huts and ride bicycles for transportation.
In this they're like the so-called automotive safety and emissions mavens, whose real interest is not in cleaner, safer cars but in setting targets so unrealistically high that the cost of meeting them results in unaffordable cars, and we're back to the bicycles thing.
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