[nathanbedford]

We have lost the idea that society must bear the costs of its decisions. For example, we did not rub our hands together and agonize over whether we should bomb Dresden, we assumed that the German people had it coming for putting in place a Nazi regime. Nor did we agonize about the firebombings of Tokyo or even about Hiroshima or Nagasaki, we assumed the Japanese got what was coming to them because they turned to a militaristic/fastest regime.

Today, however, we agonize over collateral damage and we handcuff ourselves in waging war against militant Mohammedism. Instead of bombing the environs of located terrorists and assuming that "collateral damage" is the price the locals owe for harboring terrorists in their midst, we shift war making to a different method. As a result, other people die, often innocent victims, our soldiers die, and we squander trillions of dollars.

What we see in Greece is an attempt to evade the costs of the political decisions made by the Greeks. They are simply going to repudiate the debt in the long run but they will, nonetheless, suffer and pay the price for their imprudence in acquiring the debt and putting in place regimes that countenanced the debt. The present regime will not alleviate the pain the Greeks are suffering, it will merely change its nature and inflict it on others. It will make a political decision.

Equally, the governments of Europe, especially Germany, have sought to alleviate the pain banks would sustain if the Greeks default on the debt by transferring the pain to taxpayers. They rationalize this decision with the argument that every citizen would suffer much more if such a default brought on a generalized depression. They have made and will continue to make political decisions.

At some point this chain must be broken and plain must be inflicted.

Do you suppose there is an economic as well as a moral lesson here for the United States?

[HiTech RedNeck]

In WWII, Axis places that were at risk to be bombed were even leafleted ahead of time, to emphasize that the Allied quarrel wasn’t even with civilians qua civilians.

I guess that was humane enough. What do you do when you are about to attack illiterates?

[don-o]

Nor did we agonize about the firebombings of Tokyo or even about Hiroshima or Nagasaki, we assumed the Japanese got what was coming to them because they turned to a militaristic/fastest regime.

What does the USA deserve for the murder of multiplied millions of innocent unborn human beings?

[PGalt]

At some point this chain must be broken and plain must be inflicted.

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and forge the chains of debt slavery to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

[TADSLOS]

Great analyis, Nathan. This is the outcome of global community organizing and helicopter parenting nation states aka the UN and World Bank.