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The Myth of the Good Guy With a Gun (Evil advocates seeking to define rights as a health detriment)
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/01/good_guy_with_a_gun_myth_g ^ | 1/27/2015 | By Evan DeFilippis and Devin Hughes

Posted on 01/27/2015 11:58:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory

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To: papertyger

Roger that. The problem, of course, is they have a warped sense of good and evil, as in they don’t think they exist (except for conservatives, of course.)

I think they have this attitude because they identify with evil (and in reality ARE evil) and think they’re capable of doing the things the evil do, and if that’s the case, they don’t want to get shot doing those things. So, in essence, they want everybody disarmed because of “enlightened self-interest.”


21 posted on 01/27/2015 12:58:38 PM PST by afsnco
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To: longtermmemmory
The real problem is that gun control advocates know they have one almost insurmountable problem in getting what they want (a disarmed public). The problem is that there are about 89 to 90+ firearms per 100 people in the USA. The firearms are not spread evenly like peanut butter, but still close to half the households have a firearm.

The gun control think tanks are working hard to figure out ways to reduce that huge number of firearms. UN treaties, requiring all firearm to have biometric smart triggers (the old ones that would be destroyed by the conversion, well destroy them for the public safety), making certain features illegal and subject to confiscation (too large a magazine or capable of being fitted with a large magazine), etc. Making people fear firearms and give them up or confiscating and destroying firearms for people deemed a threat to themselves (when it is legal to do medically assisted suicide in some states) is all part of the plan.

22 posted on 01/27/2015 1:10:24 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: jda

And there is no real statistical way to factor in defensive uses of firearms that do not require firing the weapon. Libs like to pretend there is no such thing.


23 posted on 01/27/2015 1:11:50 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Vendome

the auther...” manages the evaluation of poverty-reduction projects in Nairobi, Kenya. “

sort of a community organizer of sorts....from Obie’s “home country of kenya”


24 posted on 01/27/2015 1:15:16 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: longtermmemmory

One huge flaw in this analysis is that they are comparing stats for law abiding gun owners and law abiding non-gun owners, while completely ignoring those who don’t obey the law.


25 posted on 01/27/2015 1:21:50 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: longtermmemmory

The funny part is that the libs still think that they can eliminate this right with the simple stroke of a pen, and no further consequences.


26 posted on 01/27/2015 1:23:38 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: longtermmemmory
...a record number of Americans subscribe to some version of this mythology...

Most of us know that the good guy with a gun does not necessarily equate to the nice guy with a gun.

27 posted on 01/27/2015 1:32:26 PM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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To: longtermmemmory
the premise of this article is “the absence of big government will have you shot”...

beyond the stats of firearms accidents and those with mental issues cited in the article, the fact remains as Wayne La Pierre has stated; the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun................ My point about big government being bad for your health is in line with La Pierre of which I wholly subscribe.

28 posted on 01/27/2015 1:40:38 PM PST by drypowder
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To: longtermmemmory

If guns don’t make you safer, let’s do cops a favor and disarm them.


29 posted on 01/27/2015 2:55:40 PM PST by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: longtermmemmory

Can’t have people protecting themselves from the “private” wing of the “progressive” movement.


30 posted on 01/27/2015 2:59:20 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Boogieman
The funny part is that the libs still think that they can eliminate this right with the simple stroke of a pen, and no further consequences.

Imagine all the surprised "Moms" facing firing squads or lamp posts, because they don't really understand the concept of "treason."

31 posted on 01/27/2015 3:20:42 PM PST by papertyger ("News" is what journalists want you to hear.)
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To: longtermmemmory
The evidence overwhelmingly shows that guns leave everybody less safe, including their owners.

That's just a bald faced lie.

32 posted on 01/27/2015 3:51:11 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: longtermmemmory

“Can it be supposed, that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, and the most important of the code, will respect the less considerable and arbitrary injunctions, the violation of which is so easy, and of so little comparative importance? Does not the execution of this law deprive the subject of that personal liberty, so dear to mankind and to the wise legislator? and does it not subject the innocent to all the disagreeable circumstances that should only fall on the guilty? It certainly makes the situation of the assaulted worse, and of the assailants better, and rather encourages than prevents murder, as it requires less courage to attack unarmed than armed persons.” -Cesare Beccaria

Gun control is an idea that falls squarely against logic. As Beccaria notes in in the latter part of this passage, not having a weapon is worse than having one. .00001 chance of defending yourself is still better than .000000... The fact is that the arguments for gun control largely rest on fabrications and the motive of those who advocate for it is nothing less than treason, regardless of the lies they spew to cover that up.


33 posted on 01/27/2015 4:48:26 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: GenXteacher

The “studies” that he cites simply lie with statistics. The international “study” only looks at cherry picked “developed countries” and then only at firearms related homicides.

It is selection bias on its face.

The domestic study that he cites comes up with 1.1 percent increase in firearm homicide rate for a 1 percent increase in firearm ownership using a proxy for firearm ownership and “controlling” for numerous other factors.

The “public health” gun studies have been notoriously biased and unprofessional. I would like to see what their “proxy” is, and how they controlled for “confounding factors”.

You have to pay for the study. The author is a Physician, not a criminologist.


34 posted on 01/27/2015 6:15:03 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Used to be I’d actually try and reason with people like this. Then I realized facts were the last thing they were interested in.

So now I simply say, “If you think I shouldn’t have guns, feel free to put your life where your mouth is at anytime.”


35 posted on 01/28/2015 5:40:13 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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