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FBI Seeks To Legally Hack You If You're Connected To TOR Or a VPN
Slashdot.org ^ | 1/20/15

Posted on 01/25/2015 11:15:40 PM PST by LibWhacker

The investigative arm of the Department of Justice is attempting to short-circuit the legal checks of the Fourth Amendment by requesting a change in the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. These procedural rules dictate how law enforcement agencies must conduct criminal prosecutions, from investigation to trial. Any deviations from the rules can have serious consequences, including dismissal of a case. The specific rule the FBI is targeting outlines the terms for obtaining a search warrant. It's called Federal Rule 41(b), and the requested change would allow law enforcement to obtain a warrant to search electronic data without providing any specific details as long as the target computer location has been hidden through a technical tool like Tor or a virtual private network. It would also allow nonspecific search warrants where computers have been intentionally damaged (such as through botnets, but also through common malware and viruses) and are in five or more separate federal judicial districts. Furthermore, the provision would allow investigators to seize electronically stored information regardless of whether that information is stored inside or outside the court's jurisdiction.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: computers; computing; corporations; fbi; hack; hacking; internet; precrime; searchwarrant; tor; vpn
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To: LibWhacker; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
Justifiable, imo, if a person is a suspect in terrorism or some criminal endeavor.

That would be probable cause and would justify a warrant.

At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason ~ nully's son

The biggest killer of mankind

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

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41 posted on 01/26/2015 7:59:56 AM PST by null and void (The aggregate effect of competitive capitalism is indistinguishable from magic)
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To: null and void

Add me to the list, or I’ll report you to the Mods!


42 posted on 01/26/2015 8:02:20 AM PST by Comment Not Approved (When bureaucrats outlaw hunting, outlaws will hunt bureaucrats.)
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To: Comment Not Approved

Perfect! Done!


43 posted on 01/26/2015 8:03:53 AM PST by null and void (The aggregate effect of competitive capitalism is indistinguishable from magic)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

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44 posted on 01/26/2015 9:08:41 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: LibWhacker

I can barely remember the USA.


45 posted on 01/26/2015 10:10:56 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: F15Eagle

“Everything changed after 9/11.”

Nothing, I repeat “NOTHING CHANGED AFTER 9/11”.

Human nature does not evolve that fasst, and the American citizenry’s committment to the Founding Documents has been in decline for generations.

As the risks are inflicted on America and the West by Islam/Muslims, only destruction of Islam/Muslims will prevent Americans from gradually accepting tyranny in plae of teh freedoms guaranteed by teh Constitution.

It is impossible to prevent Muslim attacks by allowing government into every aspect of your communications and your life. That path leads to tyranny.

ONLY DESTRUCTION OF ISLAM WILL BRING AN END TO THE 1,400 HISTORY OF ISLAMIC ATTACKS!


46 posted on 01/26/2015 10:38:13 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
ANY VPN?

If they get this, we are going to have to change the acronym to VAPN. Virtual Almost Private Network.

47 posted on 01/26/2015 12:34:17 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: TigersEye
Yes.

Simply invoking your Constitutional rights will be a suspicious activity worthy of stripping you of your Constitutional rights.

-PJ

49 posted on 01/26/2015 12:59:08 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
This seems like it will make it all too easy to get warrants to collect data on anyone.

Exactly, that was my point.

50 posted on 01/26/2015 2:08:10 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: null and void

the thugocracy keeps chuggin along


51 posted on 01/26/2015 6:46:06 PM PST by Nifster
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To: LibWhacker

So, I set up my home system so I can VPN into it, and the Feds want the right to hack my systems?

Comrades! We are home Back in the good ol USSR,


52 posted on 01/26/2015 7:11:46 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Dallas59
Yep...the real criminals now are American citizens.

Nope...the real criminals now are the U.S. government. And they should be dealt with by the citizenry.

By ANY means necessary.

53 posted on 01/27/2015 10:52:53 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: LibWhacker

I use a VPN daily to guarantee no sensitive data are exposed when I’m logging in from home. It isn’t criminal activity. It does not constitute probable cause. There is no warrant. Butt the hell out.


54 posted on 01/27/2015 11:00:44 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: unixfox

Forgot my /s


55 posted on 01/27/2015 8:03:43 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: Nachum

The best, VPN is Cryptohippie.


56 posted on 01/31/2015 1:59:35 AM PST by rambo316
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To: LibWhacker

Wonder how well they’d be able to hack us if some of their billion-dollar server farms got sizzled by an EMP?


57 posted on 10/11/2016 9:00:50 PM PDT by Laser_Ray
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