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FBI Seeks To Legally Hack You If You're Connected To TOR Or a VPN
Slashdot.org ^ | 1/20/15

Posted on 01/25/2015 11:15:40 PM PST by LibWhacker

The investigative arm of the Department of Justice is attempting to short-circuit the legal checks of the Fourth Amendment by requesting a change in the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure. These procedural rules dictate how law enforcement agencies must conduct criminal prosecutions, from investigation to trial. Any deviations from the rules can have serious consequences, including dismissal of a case. The specific rule the FBI is targeting outlines the terms for obtaining a search warrant. It's called Federal Rule 41(b), and the requested change would allow law enforcement to obtain a warrant to search electronic data without providing any specific details as long as the target computer location has been hidden through a technical tool like Tor or a virtual private network. It would also allow nonspecific search warrants where computers have been intentionally damaged (such as through botnets, but also through common malware and viruses) and are in five or more separate federal judicial districts. Furthermore, the provision would allow investigators to seize electronically stored information regardless of whether that information is stored inside or outside the court's jurisdiction.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: computers; computing; corporations; fbi; hack; hacking; internet; precrime; searchwarrant; tor; vpn
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To: LibWhacker
If you are using a public Wi-Fi access point to look at anything sensitive, you should be using a VPN.

And, if the FBI can break your VPN, then so can al Qaeda, not to mention Barack Obama!

21 posted on 01/26/2015 2:54:44 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: LibWhacker

It certainly isn’t for the WOT, Obama gave up on that long ago and even with names and details on the Boston Massacre terrorist cell NOTHING WAS DONE AND IGNORANCE WAS CLAIMED.


22 posted on 01/26/2015 2:54:55 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: LibWhacker

What’s to prevent the FBI from gathering data from every politician’s computer in a giant fishing expedition & passing blackmail material to the WH when that politician declares himself a candidate for high office?

This stuff makes the movie “Enemy of the State” look like kindergarten stuff.


23 posted on 01/26/2015 2:55:18 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: PghBaldy

First Lady Hillary Clinton didn’t need any Patriot Act to illegally obtain 900 FBI files.


24 posted on 01/26/2015 2:55:50 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: TLI

I think the corporate angle is one of the reasons.


25 posted on 01/26/2015 2:56:02 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: LibWhacker

The start of the pre-crime police division. You will be arrested, convicted and sent to prison because they think you were going to do something illegal.

Let’s turn it around, now that you mention it, I think all public employees must report their net worth and annual income yearly to an agency permitted to release that information to the public if they thought there was reason to believe illegal or unethical things were happening.


26 posted on 01/26/2015 3:16:02 AM PST by Usagi_yo (It's not possible to give success. Only opportunity. Success is earned on it's own right.)
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To: LibWhacker
Translation...

The Administration along with Holder's FBI want to usurp the U.S. Constitution by making an illegal law that violates the 4th Amendment of the Bill of Rights.

That way they can go after all who disagree with them politically speaking.

27 posted on 01/26/2015 3:16:24 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: F15Eagle

So the terrorist won and we must surrender freedom for security???

Have you not learned anything from our Founding Fathers???


28 posted on 01/26/2015 3:17:23 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: saintgermaine

Yep and THAT is why our country is going down the Shithole.


29 posted on 01/26/2015 3:18:51 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: TLI; LibWhacker

TLI,

I was going to mention the same thing, about companies using the VPN ‘dongles’ for secure communications.

The govt is dumb as a box of rocks.


30 posted on 01/26/2015 3:33:52 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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How any court can intelligently rule on these matters is a great curiosity to me.


31 posted on 01/26/2015 3:59:14 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: LibWhacker

We wont open any mail, save the really suspicious ones IN ENVELOPES.


32 posted on 01/26/2015 4:20:06 AM PST by gaijin
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To: LibWhacker
Only justifiable if you can also justify going after someone because you saw them pass a note by hand or whisper into an ear - must be hiding something ya know...

How about all them diaries with locks on them? Or storage units with padlocks. Hell, while we're at it, how about all them folks that lock their houses up whether they are at home or out?

33 posted on 01/26/2015 4:36:57 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: TigersEye

I use a VPN literally every single work day. I connect to my company’s network from a remote system. Terrorist? Snort, not hardly. More like section manager dealing with time cards, performance reviews, etc. This seems like it will make it all too easy to get warrants to collect data on anyone.


34 posted on 01/26/2015 4:44:35 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Dallas59

“Yep...the real criminals now are American citizens.”

Allow me to correct your statement.

Yep...the real criminals now are fascist federal agencies and lawless politicians occupying Washington.


35 posted on 01/26/2015 5:06:56 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Darksheare
the revolutionary fire has been bred out of our people


36 posted on 01/26/2015 5:16:07 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: LibWhacker

ANY VPN? That sounds like a Federal license to steal.


37 posted on 01/26/2015 5:40:17 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: driftdiver; TLI; LibWhacker

Driftdiver,

On reading your post, I stand corrected; the govt isn’t dumb as a box of rocks.... 0 is going to snoop on any company using Von.

Question then is, why.


38 posted on 01/26/2015 5:47:42 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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To: WildHighlander57

Von s/b VPN.


39 posted on 01/26/2015 5:49:10 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2001)
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