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30 Filipino police commandos killed in clash with rebels
Fox News ^ | Jan. 25 2015 | AP

Posted on 01/25/2015 4:26:01 PM PST by bunkerhill7

MANILA, Philippines – More than 30 police commandos were killed in a clash with Muslim insurgents Sunday in the southern Philippines in the biggest single-day combat loss for Philippine forces in many years, officials said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 201501; binhir; gwot; islam; jihad; malaysian; marwan; milf; missiles; moro; moslem; muslims; muslimterrorists; philippines; terroists; yee; zulkiflibinhir
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To: GeronL

Thanks for clarifying.


21 posted on 01/25/2015 5:38:24 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: 353FMG
We had well-off Philippine neighbors who boasted that, after their retirement, they would have a house built for them in the PH where they would live like kings complete with servants. I have never liked people who take advantage of the less fortunate and then boast about it. If you want to be a prick, shut up about it.

They weren't, really. They're not the crooked pols and oligopolists who kept the economy stagnant for 7 decades. They're not exploiting anybody. Pinoys could do with more wealthy Americans moving there - they'd help employ the hordes of people currently headed abroad as domestics to places like Hong Kong, Singapore and the Middle East, postings where they get to see their families once or twice a year. Heck, a number of American Freepers post from the PI.

22 posted on 01/25/2015 5:51:34 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: dfwgator

That was about the time that the .45ACP Model 1911 was first used in combat.


23 posted on 01/25/2015 6:10:01 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Zhang Fei

>They’re not exploiting anybody.<

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Perhaps not, but don’t boast about your financial status.

Worked and lived in some very poverty stricken countries (including Yemen) but I was almost embarrassed to show my relative wealth in those countries.


24 posted on 01/25/2015 6:17:27 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

This is not a universal cultural trait.
Displays of wealth, abilities, and power are sometimes even a requirement in some places.
In the Philippines, for instance, in a small town, if you are known to be wealthy, being unwilling to hire people as servants may give you a reputation as an ungenerous miser, by denying poor people opportunities to earn a livelihood.
There is a continuum here. Danes and other Scandinavians find Americans boastful.
Big world. Best rule, most of the time, is “when in Rome ...”.


25 posted on 01/25/2015 7:19:17 PM PST by buwaya
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To: bunkerhill7

A very sorry business. The INP is not well equipped and I suspect they were probably betrayed into an ambush.


26 posted on 01/25/2015 7:21:34 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

My old friend has lived and worked near manila for 12 years. He is comfortable but not rich, and has had as many as seven employees at once. Drivers, housekeepers yayas, cooks, gardeners. Most of them are a revolving cast of his wife’s sisters and cousins who come up from Mindanao, but others are local. He’s helped a lot of people to find jobs.


27 posted on 01/25/2015 7:28:18 PM PST by eartrumpet
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To: eartrumpet

That’s indeed the way it works.
In a sense its the Filipino version of welfare.
Works better in many ways, as these are legitimate jobs where people can have some pride in earning a living, develop contacts for other employment and education. Many teenagers, especially the very talented, get their school fees paid by their employers or find a patron through their relatives employers. No longer living there, but the family in former days put a lot of Leyte and Samar (Waray) girls through nursing school and the like. And perhaps most important, a kid with no family or far from home finds a family to be loyal to, and who will reciprocate with loyalty. Family is a huge thing there.
Of course like any human institution it can be abused in thousands of ways. Back in the day a popular theme in Filipino movies was the servant girl abused by (or perhaps just developing a passion for) the wastrel son. Nora Aunor was in a bunch.


28 posted on 01/25/2015 7:56:57 PM PST by buwaya
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To: 353FMG
Perhaps not, but don’t boast about your financial status.

Consider the phenomenal popularity of Disney on Ice "Frozen" shows. The monetary outlay for a small family excursion to one of these runs into several hundreds of dollars, at a minimum. Yet they are packed, to the point where it can take an hour or more to drive the last few hundred yards into the venue. Of course, I speak from recent experience. Who has the money to spend on this sort of thing? Evidently a lot of people, and it was certainly a "diverse" crowd, I might add, from my vantage point. I observed a diversity of diminutive Elsa's ( that is, wearing the blue dress ) among the attendees. Very retro.

29 posted on 01/25/2015 8:05:42 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: lavaroise; All
Indeed, the corruption in the Philippines notwithstanding, they do not mess around with this sort of criminals.

Unfortunately, they (Philippine gov't) cave in to these criminals (actually, they are far more than criminals) regularly.

This Mayor Ampatuan is evidently part of the same clan ("warlords", says my Filipina wife) whose forces killed a large group of local journalists and other civilians on 11/23/09. If anyone is not familiar with this horrific crime, you should be:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maguindanao_massacre

Note the lack of justice...

That said, the Ampatuan clan probably did not attack the police in this case - at least not directly. In this latest incident, and drawing from the Fox / AP article, it is notable that the target of the police raid is one Zulkifli bin Hir, a Malaysian terrorist who's been hiding in the Muslim part of Mindano for over a decade. The Moro Islamic Liberation Front is strong in the area (as in so many parts of the Muslim world, there are various factions who may or may not cooperate with each other, any given minute.) It's a pretty safe bet the Moro's (or friends) have been shielding bin Hir. I would not even be surprised to learn that this was a flat out ambush with the Philippine police carefully "set up".

It's also interesting that "foreign truce monitors intervened". Too bad it wasn't a couple of U.S. helicopter gunships or A-10's.

30 posted on 01/26/2015 1:40:55 AM PST by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: bunkerhill7

Prayers for the police killed & wounded, and their families.


31 posted on 01/26/2015 1:47:01 AM PST by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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To: dr_lew

“——Disney on Ice “Frozen” shows.”

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Truly never heard of it.


32 posted on 01/26/2015 11:03:39 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: bunkerhill7

This is horrific! Gives meaning to the saying “Give them an inch and they will take a mile.”


33 posted on 01/26/2015 3:37:54 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

He was shot in the head, his wife`s cousin said.
She also said the Moslems have killed reporters who go in that area to find out more information.


34 posted on 01/26/2015 4:44:55 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (re (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))
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To: Jack Hydrazine

MILF- that’s the group California’s Democrat senator Yee was going to for missiles in his little arms smuggling endeavor.


35 posted on 02/03/2015 6:48:14 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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