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NFL finds Patriots used underinflated footballs
Boston Globe ^ | 1-21-15 | Ben Volin

Posted on 01/21/2015 6:57:45 AM PST by Colehill1999

The Patriots used underinflated footballs on Sunday night.

The next question is how did it happen?

According to a National Football League letter about the investigation into the controversy that was shared with the Globe, the Patriots were informed that the league’s initial findings indicated that the game balls did not meet specifications. The league inspected each of the Patriots’ 12 game balls twice at halftime, using different pressure gauges, and found footballs that were not properly inflated.

According to ESPN, 11 of the 12 game balls were found to be underinflated by about 2 pounds each. The NFL specifications say they must be inflated to 12½ to 13½ pounds.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: againandagain; colts; deflategate; deflatriots; indiana; indianapolis; indianapoliscolts; newengland; newenglandpatriots; nfl; patriots; superbowl
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To: 21twelve
Take a dive - coach doesn’t want us to beat the spread!

With Green Bay (a 7 point dog) leading at the time, how does them scoring more points affect the betting outcome?

261 posted on 01/21/2015 2:04:48 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: TexasGator

It’s important in racing because the nitrogen from a tank is dry, and there’s less variability in the temp vs pressure curve. But that’s a deal where half a psi can be felt in the handling of the car.

I agree for a football no big deal.


262 posted on 01/21/2015 2:08:23 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: 21twelve

They told him to sit probably to lessen risk. A few times a year you see a guy intercept a ball and then fumble while he gets tackled. Defensive player don’t tend to have the best ball security. The “bubble” said “sit down, don’t risk giving the ball back, let the offense get 2 first downs and finish this game”. Then the offense got no first downs...


263 posted on 01/21/2015 2:13:04 PM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: nascarnation

Because the Packer’s coach had bet on the Seahawks! (I’m just being goofy.)

I was telling my wife that game seemed like an episode of Bewitched. Early on, Endora (?) was putting the hex on all of Wilson’s throws. A sure catch and at the last minute she points her finger and it bounces off the receiver’s hands and into a GB player. Points her finger and it swerves into a GB player’s hands, fumbled kick, etc.

Then Samantha makes it to the stadium and puts a stop to it, and twitches her nose a few times to even up the game a bit.

As a Seahawks fan we were talking about how there was enough time left, but I didn’t think it was possible based on how lousy they had been for most of the game.


264 posted on 01/21/2015 2:13:56 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: TexasGator

Granted, for your normal passenger vehicle, nitrogen would seem overkill. But pure nitrogen in your tires will help to keep your TPM light from coming on every time the temp drops dramatically (such as in certain climates). But the savvy physicists who race cars, or fly airplanes, will certainly opt for nitrogen over air in their tires. Not to mention that your “air”, while mostly nitrogen, oftentimes will also come with moisture included. If they were to use compressed air, like from your garden variety air-compressor to inflate a football, would it be possible for the additional moisture to settle and freeze, while the ball sat on the sidelines, thus creating a wobble?


265 posted on 01/21/2015 2:25:17 PM PST by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: HandyDandy

“. But pure nitrogen in your tires will help to keep your TPM light from coming on every time the temp drops dramatically (such as in certain climates). “

Pure marketing hype.


266 posted on 01/21/2015 2:55:34 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: HandyDandy

“But the savvy physicists who race cars, or fly airplanes, will certainly opt for nitrogen over air in their tires.”

Planes use N2 or H2 because it eliminates the oxygen reducing fire hazards.

“Not to mention that your “air”, while mostly nitrogen, oftentimes will also come with moisture included.”

Any decent dryer on the compressor will render this point meaningless for normal applications.


267 posted on 01/21/2015 3:11:40 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: 21twelve

” but I could almost see a bubble with the guy yelling “Take a dive - coach doesn’t want us to beat the spread!””

Uh .... they beat the spread in the first quarter ...


268 posted on 01/21/2015 3:17:02 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: nascarnation

“It’s important in racing because the nitrogen from a tank is dry, and there’s less variability in the temp vs pressure curve. “

Air from a tank is ‘basically’ dry. Consider that the ‘moisture’ in the air is water vapor ... a gas. All gases expand according to the formula PV=nRT. Granted that the coefficient does change slightly for different gases and at different pressures but not so much to be noticed at these conditions.


269 posted on 01/21/2015 3:20:39 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: Red Badger

I apologize, Red Badger. I need to focus on the whole screen, and somehow I’m missing it. Old age maybe.

I’ll try to do better in the future.


270 posted on 01/21/2015 10:01:13 PM PST by onedoug
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271 posted on 01/22/2015 6:30:04 AM PST by John W (Al Gore Global Warming King frozen stiffer)
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To: TexasGator
Well, I guess he was told to say "I have no knowledge of how it happen."

He must have said that at least half a dozen times in the interview a few minutes ago.

272 posted on 01/22/2015 6:53:49 AM PST by mware
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To: Colehill1999

The interview looked pretty bad.


273 posted on 01/22/2015 6:55:14 AM PST by mware
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To: mware

LOL, kind of reminded me of, “No controlling legal authority.”


274 posted on 01/22/2015 6:56:17 AM PST by mware
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To: mware

Well, his never look very good.


275 posted on 01/22/2015 6:57:08 AM PST by John W (Al Gore Global Warming King frozen stiffer)
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To: John W

I guess they had to get him out there to address the issue, but left more questions than answers.


276 posted on 01/22/2015 6:59:04 AM PST by mware
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To: Colehill1999

Just listened to Belichick’s press conference. He categorically denied any knowledge of ball tampering. He said that until Monday, he had no knowledge of how balls are prepped for games.

I found him believable.

So this is all on Brady, which makes sense, considering the statements this week from other QBs around the league.

Additionally, in a 2011 interview, Brady said that he prefers deflated balls.


277 posted on 01/22/2015 6:59:34 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I find it hard to believe he had no idea of how balls are prepped for games. A lifer control freak like him? Nope.


278 posted on 01/22/2015 7:10:49 AM PST by John W (Al Gore Global Warming King frozen stiffer)
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To: John W

I thought the same thing until I heard him speak. He was very specific in saying that in his 40 years of coaching football, it’s something he’s never considered.

He’s interacted with a lot of players and coaches over those years who can contradict him.

The other thing is that Brady has more interest in customizing the football, and he is the one involved in the process of choosing the 12 game balls.


279 posted on 01/22/2015 8:56:23 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: John W

It is a little bit hard to believe that he knew nothing until the next morning. The story is that the testing and replacing of game balls was going on during the game, on the sidelines. It is hard to believe that the referees substituted approved Colts balls for the second half and the head coach of the Pats knew nothing about that. That in itself is a story.


280 posted on 01/22/2015 12:43:02 PM PST by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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