Posted on 01/18/2015 4:30:55 PM PST by lowbridge
A man was kneeling in prayer before the statue of the revered Madonna, with the photograph of a loved one in hand, in the small chapel of St. Barnabas in Perugia (Italy), when he was attacked by five “immigrants.”
The first thing they did was rip the photo from his hands.
Next they unleashed their hatred against the image of the Virgin Mary. They broke the statue to pieces and then urinated on it.
Don Scarda, pastor of St. Barnabas, said the event was led byfive “foreigners.” By the time police arrived at the chapel, the unidentified attackers had already fled.
The incident has caused a stir among locals. Some have lambasted Pope Francis who is accused of appeasing immigrants—mostly Muslims—to wild extremes. Earlier he had said that “Migrants, through their own humanity, cultural values, expand the sense of human brotherhood.”
Although the Diocese condemned the act of sacrilege against the Madonna statue, it also followed the Pope’s lead by absolving Islam of any responsibility for what happened.
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
I guess terrorists just need a hug. We should try to understand and empathize with them.
Well, not me.
“I guess terrorists just need a hug. We should try to understand and empathize with them.”
I never said anything about hugging, understanding, or empathizing, only forgiveness.
I will let God forgive them. I will be praying for justice.
Well, justice and forgiveness are not exclusive, you know.
Surely.
I think it’s only just for Christians to demonstrate in Muslim neighborhoods with signs encouraging them to move back to the deserts from whence they came. No more brie for you raqheads!
Or, on the other hand we could turn the other cheek and whilst we are doing that our bloody head would hit the ground sans body.
If you do not forgive your enemies, you’re going to hell.
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”
“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them. If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful. Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.”
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
“Therefore the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his servants. When he began to settle, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. And since he could not pay, his master ordered him to be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and payment to be made. So the servanti fell on his knees, imploring him, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you everything.’ And out of pity for him, the master of that servant released him and forgave him the debt. But when that same servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii, and seizing him, he began to choke him, saying, ‘Pay what you owe.’ So his fellow servant fell down and pleaded with him, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you.’ He refused and went and put him in prison until he should pay the debt. When his fellow servants saw what had taken place, they were greatly distressed, and they went and reported to their master all that had taken place. Then his master summoned him and said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. And should not you have had mercy on your fellow servant, as I had mercy on you?’ And in anger his master delivered him to the jailers,k until he should pay all his debt. So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart.”
“For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die— 8but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.”
What did the POPE say?
For the life of me I can’t understand why the hate everything so much.
In all the text you posted from the Bible, no where is it written “forgive your enemies”.
And even less so does it say or imply forgive your enemies or you will go to Hell.
In fact, forgiveness is mentioned twice in all the text you posted.
One said that we need to forgive so that we will be forgiven. That tells us something about the nature of forgiveness and the mechanism associated with forgiveness.
The other mentions forgiving our brothers.
I do think you should stop making things up, or acknowledge that it is solely your opinion, which is fine.
did Italians riot over this?
“Forgive them Father; they know not what they do.”
Hi Romulus.
I will take your resorting to histrionics as an admission you can’t find anything in the Bible stating we are to forgive our enemies.
Luke 17:3-4
"Be on your guard! If your brother sins, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. "And if he sins against you seven times a day, and returns to you seven times, saying, 'I repent,' forgive him."
Matthew 18:21-22
Then Peter came and said to Him, "Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?" Jesus said to him, "I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven."
Note the bold.
It’s there. You just don’t know how to read it.
The difference between attacking a worshiper and destroying property vs. drawing a cartoon.
I wonder if liberals (like the pope) can understand the difference.
Does the phrase “...forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us...” ring a bell?
Yes.
Where does it say to forgive your enemies?
Do not your enemies include those who trespass against you?
“Do not your enemies include those who trespass against you?”
Maybe.
I addressed where does it say forgive your enemies?
Not where might we infer it.
I posted passages on forgiveness.
And passages on loving enemies.
No where is there a passage that says forgive your enemies as was claimed.
Please read and summarize Jesus’ passages on forgiveness.
Why are we to forgive? Whom are we told to forgive? What are those we forgive meant to do prior to our forgiving them?
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