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Getting serious: U.S. troops headed to Syria [Shades of Vietnam?]
Hotair ^ | 01/15/2015 | Noah Rothman

Posted on 01/16/2015 9:17:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The White House was dragged kicking and screaming into the war against ISIS. Politically and materially, the Obama administration saw few upsides to engaging in the fight against the brutish Islamist militants despite their rapid advance across Syria and Iraq in the spring and early summer of last year. The administration’s hand was forced when it appeared as though ISIS was poised to drive the Yazidi minority into extinction.

Even then, the White House only cautiously engaged in Iraq and utterly refused to take on the Islamic State in their Northern Syrian stronghold. Since then, the Islamic State has outgrown its nursery. What began as a containable civil war in Syria has expanded into a regional fight against an emboldened Islamist radical movement with battlefields ranging from West Africa to Southeast Asia and terrorist actors taking the fight to European, Canadian, and Australian soil.

When the president was forced to confront the reality that ISIS could not be halted in Iraq unless it was also challenged in Syria, the administration hatched a Rube Goldberg plan to address the Syrian threat that was so absurd it boggled the mind.

Initially, the Pentagon planned to identify moderate indigenous Syrian rebel forces with ideals that aligned as closely with those of Western countries as possible. Once those groups and individuals were thoroughly vetted, they would be removed from the Syrian theater and transported to third-party Arab countries where they would be trained and equipped. Once that process was complete, these rebels would be reintroduced into Syria to fight ISIS, but they were also expected to avoid engaging forces loyal to Bashar al-Assad’s government. The Pentagon thought this was a reasonable expectation even despite the fact that Assad’s brutality gave rise to the rebel movement in the first place.

It was perfectly asinine. Moreover, it was logistically implausible.

It is not clear that the White House and the Pentagon recognize the folly of this antiseptic approach to warfighting. On Friday, the Defense Department revealed that 400 American soldiers were heading to Syria to train Syrian rebel forces directly. Oddly, they have not entirely abandoned the involved processes outlined above:

The training mission is expected to begin in the spring at sites outside Syria, Colonel Steve Warren said. Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia have offered to host the training.

The training program is a part of U.S. President Barack Obama’s plan to field local forces in Syria to halt and eventually roll back Islamic State fighters, while pounding them with airstrikes.

But the insurgency in Syria is now dominated by hardline Sunni Islamists, including both Islamic State and the al Qaeda-affiliated Nusra Front, complicating U.S. measures to find a suitable ally on the ground.

“The Pentagon has estimated that it can train more than 5,000 recruits in the first year under a $500 million program, and that up to 15,000 will be needed to retake areas of eastern Syria controlled by Islamic State,” Reuters reported.

Do the math.

While finally deploying American boots to Syria may speed up the process of degrading and destroying ISIS, the campaign is expected to outlive the Obama presidency. If America’s experience in Iraq is any guide, these 400 soldiers are only the first to deploy to Syria.

The Obama White House’s most urgent priority when it comes to confronting the threat posed by radical Islamic terrorism, it seems, is running out the clock. It will be up to the next administration to take the threat posed by ISIS in Iraq and Syria with the seriousness it deserves.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bootsontheground; obamaisis; syria; troopsisis
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1 posted on 01/16/2015 9:17:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If there ever was a case of not knowing who our allies are and whoever we train coming back and attacking us, this is it.


2 posted on 01/16/2015 9:18:39 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SeekAndFind
It was perfectly asinine. Moreover, it was logistically implausible.

I'll say. They could just waltz across Syria as their opposition was off at training camp in the UAE or someplace.


3 posted on 01/16/2015 9:19:22 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes. But they are going there with blankets they have collected from their mission in Liberia:

http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/10/marines-syrian-rebels/


4 posted on 01/16/2015 9:19:59 AM PST by rey
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To: SeekAndFind
Quite obvious to me that the entire administration has a severe case of Sh!t for brains.
5 posted on 01/16/2015 9:21:06 AM PST by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dear God - except for leadership, planning, intelligence, and logistics, there’s nothing wrong with this operation. Pray for the troops.


6 posted on 01/16/2015 9:21:20 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

HEY,
HEY,
KING HUSSAIN,
HOW MANY OF OUR TROOPS HAVE YOU SLAN?!


7 posted on 01/16/2015 9:22:53 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else need s said?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Senator, I served in Vietnam and Syria is no Vietnam.


8 posted on 01/16/2015 9:23:47 AM PST by PROCON (Je suis Charlie Bronson.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Really? Who will they fight? ISIS or Assad?

Isn't the neo-con plan to rid the Mid East of all non-Islamic fundamentalist governments so we can launch World War 3 against the terrible, wicked Caliphate that we helped create?

9 posted on 01/16/2015 9:23:48 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: SeekAndFind

Which islamoNazi gang of terrorist mass-murderers is O arming and training this time?


10 posted on 01/16/2015 9:24:05 AM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)
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To: SeekAndFind
How soon, a draft, you ask.. to fill Obama bodybags with?

He's on the downslope .. and so is this nation.

11 posted on 01/16/2015 9:25:37 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: SandRat

Obama ROE......if one of our troops is shot in the head, they are allowed to return fire.


12 posted on 01/16/2015 9:25:44 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: SeekAndFind

Under no circumstances should this idiocy be funded.
If the U.S. is not adamant from the beginning about going in and stamping out Sharia law completely (which we sadly are not) then there is zero possibility of any positive outcome.


13 posted on 01/16/2015 9:26:06 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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President Selfie.


14 posted on 01/16/2015 9:26:44 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Dead wrong. (Pun intended) Only the troop who was shot is allowed to return fire.


15 posted on 01/16/2015 9:27:58 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SeekAndFind

When it comes to Vietnam, remember that JFK sent in 16,000 troops.


16 posted on 01/16/2015 9:31:09 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I have a suggestion:

Kill them all and let God sort them out.

It's worked before and it'll work again.

17 posted on 01/16/2015 9:31:29 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"On Friday, the Defense Department revealed that 400 American soldiers were heading to Syria to train Syrian rebel forces directly."

A year and a half ago ISIS was considered Syrian rebel forces. How many Jihadi armies are we going to train and equit?

18 posted on 01/16/2015 9:32:37 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SeekAndFind

This is insane. We are going to be helping some Muslims kill other Muslims.

The Muslims we help (temporarily) will only turn against us.

We have no business over there helping either side in a civil/tribal/religious war.

There are dozens if not more sects and sub-sects of Islam and militants to go with each one. Which ones are our allies? NONE OF THEM.


19 posted on 01/16/2015 9:37:25 AM PST by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Lorianne

Fight the enemy with one hand and help him with the other. This is what our mis-rulers have been doing since the Korean war.


20 posted on 01/16/2015 9:47:04 AM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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