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U.S. Navy: They Will be Called Frigates
gCaptain ^
| January 15, 2015
| Andrea Shalal
Posted on 01/15/2015 3:36:40 PM PST by artichokegrower
U.S. Navy Secretary Ray Mabus on Thursday said the Navy would rename the modified Littoral Combat Ships it plans to build in coming years as frigates, given their enhanced capabilities.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; littoralcombatship; miltech; usnavy
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To: telstar12.5
not navy PC to call offensive weapons systems (a.k.a. war ships) anything more threatening than destroyers or guided missile frigates I guess "Giant Butt-Stomping Slab of Whoop-Ass", say 'GBSSWA-21, USS %shipname% is too...aggressive?
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:14:07 PM PST
by
Riley
(The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
To: Cry if I Wanna
Well live to see the day when aircraft carriers, just like battleships before them, will be obsolete. Supercavitating Torpedoes
A supercavitating torpedo is a torpedo using the effect of supercavitation to move at high velocity under water.
List Of Supercavitating Torpedoes (developed or in development)
- Russia VA-111 Shkval
- Iran Hoot
- United States (Unnamed prototype)
- Germany de:Superkavitierender Unterwasserlaufkörper
In 2004, German weapons manufacturer Diehl BGT Defence announced their own supercavitating torpedo, Barracuda, now officially named "Superkavitierender Unterwasserlaufkörper" or "supercavitating underwater running object". (English translation)
According to Diehl, it reaches more than 400 kilometres per hour (250 mph).
http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Supercavitation.html
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:19:22 PM PST
by
Iron Munro
("Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms - Open Up!" "Must be another UPS delivery, honey.")
To: artichokegrower
Mabus is a few sails short of a frigate.
A total incompetent moron.
To: Gen.Blather
Incidentally, Israel has the most advanced and most prodigiously produced drones in the world right now.BULLSH!!TE...The US does.
They're called democrats.
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:34:09 PM PST
by
mountn man
(The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
To: artichokegrower
I believe they were designed to sink in shallow water.
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:38:04 PM PST
by
tje
To: artichokegrower
I seem to recall that one new ship was going to be cancelled by the Navy. Wasn’t that the Litoral ship?
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:38:10 PM PST
by
wildbill
(If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one... what's your plan?)
To: GeronL
The change was by decree I suppose. Maybe SecNav’s mother hated the name as much as mine did. :=) It certainly wasn’t because of the awesome firepower of our twin 3” gun mounts.
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:42:54 PM PST
by
Bob
(Violence in islam? That's not a bug; it's a feature.)
To: GeronL
I know what it means, it just sounds lame.
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:48:58 PM PST
by
smokingfrog
( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
To: artichokegrower
you can call a leg a tail, it’s still a leg.
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:50:04 PM PST
by
Secret Agent Man
(Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
To: artichokegrower
Put some of those little drones on it and call it an aircraft carrier.
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:51:12 PM PST
by
oldbrowser
(We have a rogue government in Washington)
To: artichokegrower
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:53:35 PM PST
by
Yo-Yo
(Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
To: smokingfrog
Littoral Combat Ships?
Was not so bad til they realized they were C class ships
C Littoral combat ships
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:54:39 PM PST
by
teeman8r
(Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
To: teeman8r
An all female crewed ship?
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posted on
01/15/2015 4:57:52 PM PST
by
smokingfrog
( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
To: centurion316
The LCS is a ship sloop, but she costs a fortune which obviates all the advantages of an unrated vessel.
They're on the upper cusp of "corvette", size and capability wise. With a healthy dose of high-speed transport (APD) and high-speed minesweeper (DMS) tossed in.
Of course, the real reason for this designation change is so the "frigate" doesn't slip from the US Navy now that the last Perrys are on the verge of being retired. Like how the Guided Missile Destroyer Leaders (which were also called "frigates") and then the Ticonderoga-class Guided Missile Destroyers were re-designated as "Cruisers" in the 1970s. That required cascading the "frigate" designation onto the Destroyer Escorts, which also had the benefit of bringing the designations in line with those used by NATO and other allies.
The LCS is a pretty cr*ppy platform to designate as a Frigate. Even if they're enlarged. I thought a better option for the "Frigate" role would be an upgraded version of the USCG's National Security Cutter.
As an aside, while they're at it they should really re-designate the Zumwalts as Cruisers as well. Panzerschiff being politically unacceptable ...
To: central_va
Yes. It will give way to weaponized orbital vehicles. Larger ships and Aircraft carriers won’t be fast enough, maneuverable enough, stealthy enough. Will be replaced by much smaller fast attack drone ships. It’s only time before somebody makes a fleet of drone submarines, or drone spider bots to prowl the ocean’s for Nuclear capable submarines and surface ships.
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posted on
01/15/2015 5:40:51 PM PST
by
Usagi_yo
(It's not possible to give success. Only opportunity. Success is earned on it's own right.)
To: smokingfrog
The littoral region is the coastal, close in area, sometimes including small bays and river deltas.
It’s been a term in use for decades. It’s not a bureaucratic term, it’s actual a tactical term in naval warfare.
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posted on
01/15/2015 5:43:01 PM PST
by
BlueNgold
(Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
To: artichokegrower
“Patrol Boat” makes more sense.
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posted on
01/15/2015 5:43:41 PM PST
by
PAR35
To: artichokegrower
First Admiral: "These ships don't seem very good. Are they just theoretical combat ships?"
Second Admital: "No! These can really fight! These are Littoral combat ships! They will Litorally knock your socks off!"
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posted on
01/15/2015 5:44:09 PM PST
by
ClearCase_guy
("Hey, I don't appreciate your lack of sarcasm.")
To: artichokegrower
Politicians putting lipstick on a pig.
To: wildbill
IIRC, it was the Zumwalt DDG1000
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posted on
01/15/2015 5:51:08 PM PST
by
2CAVTrooper
(Je suis Charlie!)
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