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Federal Appeals Court Appears Poised To Strike Down Three Southern States’ Same-Sex Marriage Bans
BuzzFeed News ^ | January 9, 2015 | Chris Geidner

Posted on 01/09/2015 9:00:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

After oral arguments about Louisiana, Mississippi, and Texas’ bans on marriages for same-sex couples, the 5th Circuit of Appeals looks likely to strike the laws down.

NEW ORLEANS — After three hours of arguments, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals appeared poised to strike down bans on same-sex couples’ marriages in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Texas — joining all but one of the other appellate courts to consider the issue.

If the court upholds the lower court decisions striking down the Mississippi and Texas bans and reverses the trial court decision upholding Louisiana’s ban, it could have the effect of bringing marriage equality to three Deep South states — and it could come before the Supreme Court acts on pending marriage cases.

More than halfway through the morning’s arguments, an exasperated Justin Matheny, the assistant attorney general in Mississippi charged with defending the state’s ban, tried to change his tune during his rebuttal arguments.

When it became clear that the three-judge panel was leaning against upholding the bans, Matheny acknowledged that the “trajectory” for marriage rights for same-sex couples is “undeniable” — but added his new argument: “it’s not there yet.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at buzzfeed.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; judiciary; louisiana; mississippi; samesexmarriage; texas
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Who cares what the people want?
1 posted on 01/09/2015 9:00:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Really?

So there is no reason to pass laws and no reason to go to war.

The hand picked judges seem uniformly unanimous.

That should be mathematically impossible.


2 posted on 01/09/2015 9:06:13 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Certainly not Anthony Kennedy, and he’s already made up his mind to impose gay marriage on the entire nation.

The only question now is whether or not Roberts (knowing that Kennedy will vote with the four liberals) makes it a 6-3 decision.


3 posted on 01/09/2015 9:06:51 PM PST by Aetius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why stop there? Why continue to prohibit incestuous marriages? To me anything other than sex between a married man and woman is all the same—immoral.


4 posted on 01/09/2015 9:12:03 PM PST by Burkean (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wish that just ONE governor had the guts to tell the Federal Courts to: Go to Hell!


5 posted on 01/09/2015 9:13:32 PM PST by JSDude1 ( .)
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Wish that just ONE governor had the guts to tell the Federal Courts to: Go to Hell!

CW2. Let's roll.

6 posted on 01/09/2015 9:54:41 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
As mentioned in related threads, please consider the following.

Pro-gay activist justices, judges and state officials are wrongly taking advantage of low-information voters, voters who have probably never been taught about 10th Amendment (10A)-protected state powers versus constitutionally unprotected gay “rights” like gay marriage. They are doing so by wrongly reading the so-called right to gay marriage into the 14th Amendment’s (14A) Equal Protections Clause (EPC). But by doing so they are wrongly ignoring that Constitution-respecting justices had historically clarified that 14A added no new constitutional protections. It only strengthens rights that have been expressly amended to the Constitution by the states.

“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.

Note that the Supreme Court excerpt above reflects the official clarification of the scope of 14A by John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of that Amendment where the EPC is found. Bingham had clariifed that 14A applied only rights expressly amended to the Constitution by the states to the states.

“Mr. Speaker, this House may safely follow the example of the makers of the Constitution and the builders of the Republic, by passing laws for enforcing all the privileges and immunities of the United States as guaranteed by the amended Constitution and expressly enumerated in the Constitution [emphasis added].” — Congressional Globe, House of Representatives, 42nd Congress, 1st Session. (See lower half of third column.)

Again, since the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay “rights,” pro-gay activist state officials have no constitutionally enumerated gay protections to apply to the states via 14A to protect the gay agenda.

In other words, the states are actually free to make laws which discriminate against constitutionally unprotected gay rights imo, such laws based on the constitutionally unchecked, 10A-protected will of legal majority voters, as long as such laws don’t also unreasonably abridge constitutionally enumerated rights.

7 posted on 01/09/2015 9:57:20 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And gutless Republican leaders say nothing.


8 posted on 01/09/2015 9:59:30 PM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Aetius

“The only question now is whether or not Roberts (knowing that Kennedy will vote with the four liberals) makes it a 6-3 decision.”

I think you’re correct there. I would not be surprised if Scalia, Roberts, and Alito are the only opposition when SCOTUS makes its decision. Disheartened, but not surprised.


9 posted on 01/09/2015 10:02:13 PM PST by DemforBush (You're gonna wrestle SHUTE?!? Shute's a monster! A genuine geratoid!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are there any States that have Laws against Incestuous Marriage and Polygamous Marriage?

Those limitations must be Unconstitutional too, right?


10 posted on 01/09/2015 10:09:17 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (If you thought the Mulatto Marxist was bad, wait until the Menopausal Marxist is Elected.)
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Tour guides will make a fortune taking men to Asia, the former Soviet Union and the Pacific on “2nd wife shopping” trips I predict.


11 posted on 01/09/2015 10:15:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Exactly.

Once you say is ‘marriage is whatever the heck you want’ then why not incest, polygamy, or any other arrangement two more more consenting adults want?


12 posted on 01/09/2015 10:34:20 PM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

When the Dam bursts, everyone drowns.


13 posted on 01/09/2015 10:40:48 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (If you thought the Mulatto Marxist was bad, wait until the Menopausal Marxist is Elected.)
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To: TigerClaws

Liberals love to joke that in some of those backward “Red” States, you can Marry your First Cousin because there are no Laws against it.

Well, I guess they want the same for all those Progressive thinking “Blue” States too.


14 posted on 01/09/2015 10:44:17 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (If you thought the Mulatto Marxist was bad, wait until the Menopausal Marxist is Elected.)
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To: JSDude1
Wish that just ONE governor had the guts to tell the Federal Courts to: Go to Hell!

Yes. And not just about this particular issue, either; but as regarding all issues.

I have long held that for any given state, its own state supreme court should be considered the highest authority in the land--not to be superseded by the US Supreme Court, or any other institution.

I also believe that those states should have the right to nullify any federal laws they desire to nullify; and that they should not beg permission from the federal government to exercise that authority.

15 posted on 01/09/2015 10:58:12 PM PST by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“trajectory”? Judicial putsch.


16 posted on 01/10/2015 12:22:58 AM PST by Ray76 (al Qaeda is in the Oval Office (and John Boehner is their craven servant))
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To: Ray76

One word: Revolution.


17 posted on 01/10/2015 1:24:23 AM PST by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two completely different things are now ‘equal.’

How Orwellian.


18 posted on 01/10/2015 2:28:53 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is all Bible prophecy. I wish everyone was able to see this or stop ignoring it but the immoral and perverted want what they want. It’s all so sad.


19 posted on 01/10/2015 3:07:31 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure they will be coming after GA soon. This gay marriage thing is a total states rights issue and the SCOTUS should have left it there.


20 posted on 01/10/2015 8:29:28 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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