Posted on 01/09/2015 12:57:43 AM PST by radu
The two men suspected of attacking a newspaper in Paris have stolen a car and reportedly have several hostages.
A car chase is under way on the N2 motorway, and police sources say shots have been fired.
The car is now on the outskirts of Paris - close to Charles de Gaulle airport - and several helicopters are reportedly hovering overhead.
Sky's Ian Woods says the police focus now appears to have turned to an industrial building near to the airport.
Two people with gunshot wounds have been taken to hospital in Meaux.
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He had about as much anger in his speech as someone would, if they had bought a 100 count box of paperclips only to discover that there were only 99 clips in the box.
Thank you for your service today.
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“You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war.” Churchill’s remark after Chamberlain returned from signing the Munich pact with Hitler
he Associated Press @AP · 4m 4 minutes ago
Al-Qaida in Yemen, suspected of ties to Paris gunmen, has long urged strikes in the West: http://apne.ws/1AS77xu
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American officials are flying into Paris Saturday to help craft an international strategy to prevent future homegrown attacks. Attorney General Eric Holder and Department of Homeland Security Deputy Sec. Alejandro Mayorkas are traveling to Paris for high-level counter terrorism talks with French officials on Sunday. Holder, Mayorkas and French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve will discuss how to counter violent extremists at home, given ISIS’ directive to aspiring militants to carry out attacks in their home countries instead of traveling to Syria or Yemen to join the fight there. Gun attacks like the one against Charlie Hebdo’s staff are seen as especially potent threats going forward, since they require less training to carry out than a bomb attack.
They are so screwed.
That’ll show ‘em!
Frank Gardner
BBC security correspondent
Posted at
tweets: Indications are that Kouachi brothers appeared to live 'a normal life' so fooled French authorities into thinking they weren't a threat.
The only clue they missed >>> they were Muslims! <<<
Superb reporting, maggief! TY.
Catherine Herridge (Fox news) also connecting many dots in Fox TV reports.
BTW: Interview on Fox prog with Gretchen Carlson.
Mark Houser (”former investigative reporter”) published an article in 2005 in the Pittsburgh Tribune Review in which he mentioned Cherif Kouachi, who had just been arrested on terrorism charges (funneling terrorists into Iraq). After his conviction in 2008, he was released for time served.
Houser mentioned an “eerie” incident that he thinks about often.
Houser said he was in the office of Cherif Kouachi’s defense attorney (unnamed-—also not clear if this incident was in the PTR article Houser wrote in 2005) and noticed a painting created by the defense attorney of a “bunch of crocodiles attacking a crucifix.”
Houser asked him about the painting. The defense attorney told Houser “that it was meant to symbolize the end of Western civilization-—Armageddon.”
Houser asked him if he was in favor of that. Defense attorney said, “Of course not, but I am afraid of Armageddon and the end of society just like everyone else is, but we have to follow our liberal democratic tradition. We can’t forget the laws that we have to follow.”
Houser said, “it was like that Charlie Hebdo illustration. It could have been in that magazine.”
I posted this a few days ago.
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FRENCH INVESTIGATE 3RD IN SUSPECTED NETWORK
Orlando Sentinel, The (FL) - January 30, 2005
PARIS — French judicial authorities Saturday began a criminal probe of a third man in an investigation of a suspected network that sent Islamic combatants to Iraq, officials said. Cherif Kouachi was placed under investigation for “criminal association with a terrorist enterprise,” judicial officials said. Kouachi, 23, is suspected of volunteering to travel to Iraq to fight against U.S.-led coalition forces. A day earlier, two others — suspected recruiter Farid Benyettoun, 23, and Thamer Bouchnak, 22, a suspected volunteer fighter — were also placed under investigation and detained.
Paris court convicts 7 men linked to Iraq recruitment cell, 3rd Ld-Writethru, EU
Associated Press News Service, The - May 14, 2008
Author: AP; DEVORAH LAUTER Associated Press Writer
PARIS (AP)
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Investigators said the network funneled about a dozen French fighters to camps linked to the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. They say the network sought to send more recruits before al-Zarqawi was killed in a U.S. airstrike in 2006. At least seven French insurgents have died in Iraq, some in suicide bombings, police say. Of them, three were linked to the Paris group.
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Such trials are delicate for European countries that fear too-tough sentences risk radicalizing moderate Muslims.
One of the defense lawyers, Martin Pradel, said Wednesday’s sentences went too far.
Pradel said the court had no material evidence linking the men to a terrorist cell other than “the proclamation of their Muslim faith.” He said all seven men frequented the same mosque.
Speaking to The Associated Press, he contended that the defendants’ religious beliefs were “decisive” in the conviction. “I find that poses a real problem in a democracy,” he said.
Prosecutor Jean-Julien Xavier-Rolai, who had sought harsher sentences, said he may appeal.
Judge Jacqueline Rebeyrotte singled out ringleader Farid Benyettou, a 27-year-old janitor-turned-street-preacher, calling him “the ideologue and one of the organizers of a group whose objective was to send young people from the 19th arrondissement of Paris to fight in Iraq.”
The men were linked to the “19th arrondissement network,” named for the Paris district where Benyettou preached. The multi-national, working-class neighborhood includes many Muslim families with roots in one-time French colonies in North Africa.
The judge said Benyettou recruited young men from the neighborhood for jihad, or holy war, through his extremist religious teachings and by arranging weapons training and travel through Syria to get to Iraq.
Benyettou said during the trial that the case against him was an affront to his freedom of speech and that some of his statements to police were made under duress.
When the judge sentenced him to six years in prison, Benyettou nodded silently in acceptance.
The other defendants present accepted their sentences with little or no visible emotion, and were quickly taken away by police guards after the verdict was pronounced.
Boubakeur el-Hakim, 24, whose brother was killed in Iraq and who urged his Paris neighbors to come to Iraq in a French radio interview from Baghdad in 2003, was given a seven-year sentence, as was 40-year-old Moroccan Said Abdellah.
Algerian Nacer Mettai, 37, accused of forging documents for the potential fighters, was sentenced to four years in prison.
Mohammed el-Ayouni, Thamer Bouchnak and Cherif Kouachi - all 25 years old - were given three-year sentences, 18 months of which were suspended.
El-Ayouni, who said he was motivated by his outrage at television images of torture of Iraqi inmates at the U.S. prison at Abu Ghraib, lost an arm and an eye in Iraq. Bouchnak and Kouachi, a pizza deliverer, were arrested days before they planned to travel to Syria in January 2005, allegedly to train for Iraq.
Defense atty for Cherif Kouachi who created the painting: Vincent Ollivier
Original 2005 Mark Houser article:
“Ollivier admitted that his client told other militants they should attack Jewish interests in France. But he said that was a front Kouachi put up to look brave.
Besides, he said, what Kouachi was planning was no different than what many in the West did in the 1930s, when they joined the international brigades to fight Gen. Francisco Franco in the Spanish Civil War.
Ollivier decorates his office with art he makes from painted plywood and found objects. In one piece, black plastic crocodiles creep out of a pond and advance on a crucifix. It represents the end of Western Civilization and Christianity, he said.
“I’m like everybody else,” Ollivier said. “I’m worrying about it and waiting for it, for Armageddon. But ... we can’t avoid all our democratic laws. The way we are fighting terrorists is very dangerous because we are forgetting all our rules.” “
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Yesterday Pittsburgh Trib article referencing orig 2005 article:
http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/7523279-74/kouachi-houser-lawyer
France has a MILLION more of them.
IMHO, it’s too late for France to do much about them.””
Keep in mind we have well over 6 million of them here and several of them in congress and the executive branch in DC.
I was happy to see all those huge demonstrations in France last night to let those Islamic pigs know it ain’t that easy.
Guess what? After this they’ll import even more Muzzies per year just like we did after 9/11!
And the elites are loving it!
Perhaps someone should tell Hollande that one of Cherif Kouachiin's former lawyers, Martin Pradel, said in 2008, after Kouachiin was convicted of terrorist activities, that the court had no material evidence linking the men to a terrorist cell other than “the proclamation of their Muslim faith."
Perhaps you have seen some of the material posted at Free Republic regarding the Muslim and CAIR connections of tax fighter Grover Norquist. Turns out he has a Palestinian wife. Was his anti tax pledge part of a move to weaken our military. If it was, he certainly was successful as my son in the military tells me.
I know that. But the rough man didn’t want the publicity. He killed him knowing that he’d lose the girl as a result, because he knew that Rance Stoddard was what his region needed. Really the fact that Ransom Stoddard’s gun was not the one from which the lead balls emanated that perforated Liberty Valance was exactly the point. He stood up to him and refused to be intimidated, even though he didn’t know how to shoot, because he believed in the triumph of law over brutality. This motivated Tom Donovan to do the actual deed of killing, but Stoddard was the one who killed the spirit of Liberty Valance. Next, the cowardly Marshall Applegate stood up and had Valance’s henchmen run out of town, and next at the convention in Capital City, the homesteaders outvoted the cattlemen and obtained statehood. Really Stoddard did kill Liberty Valance, and Tom Donovan as well, by making brute force obsolete by standing up in its face.
With regards to France, Coleridge says that “if you do not understand a man’s ignorance, presume yourself ignorant of his understanding (Biographia Literaria, somewhere towards the end).” What the French have not understood until now is that you must stand up against naked savagery. They believed that you can reach an accommodation with it and still remain civilized, who cares if you act unmanly. But what they do understand is that civilized is a worthwhile thing to be, because it leads to prosperity, peace, and an enjoyment of the fine things in life. I am hoping that they now also grasp the necessity of making a stand, like Ransom Stoddard, of risking everything to fight for civilization, because it’s worth defending. They seem to have woken up, but you can never know, only hope.
Pacifism? Ha! He killed the entire ruling inner circle, and then blew up Parliament. Without orders from higher up, the sojers were not going to start strafing their neighbors for showing up with a mask on. Wish he hadn’t added the crowd scene to the story. Read the comic. Saw the movie eventually. I like Alan Moore, but his political correctness gets in the way and on my nerves.
Without Tom Donovan the Ransom Stoddards of the world will die. Tom Donovan is the rough much needed man, just like V in the film. Without the rough to clear the way, civilization wanes and dies.
And note how V and Stoddard worked.
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