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To: Jacquerie
I used to think that, too, hence my screen name.

But, even a quick glance at the state houses and governorships show that the political parties have substantially taken over those offices, as well. The problem really now, besides the grip of the parties, is they way they control the states with massive subsidies.

So, what we're left with is this endless cycle of parties handing out money to states, and states providing power and candidates to the parties who perpetuate the cycle.

While I still think the 17th amendment was a disaster, I don't believe that ending it would solve much. Outlawing political parties is about the only way to end it, and that would probably take a constitutional amendment.

George Washington had it right about 220 years ago:" I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the state, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party, generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind, (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight,) the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another."

I'd say he pretty much nailed it, all those years ago.

41 posted on 01/06/2015 12:40:27 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
All well and good. However, history shows the federal, pre-1913 government pretty much stayed within its constitutional box, and not at all since.
43 posted on 01/06/2015 1:34:22 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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