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Exclusive: U.S. Drone Fleet at ‘Breaking Point,’ Air Force Says
thedailybeast ^ | Jan 5, 2015 | Dave Majumda

Posted on 01/05/2015 9:46:29 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

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1 posted on 01/05/2015 9:46:29 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...

Active Duty ping.


2 posted on 01/05/2015 9:47:08 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

> The Air Force has enough MQ-1 Predator and MQ-9 Reaper drones. It just doesn’t have the manpower to operate those machines

Simple solution; form a program named Sky-Net to develop AI for the drones where they can work sutonomously on a network network them so they can perform coordinated attacks...should work just fine.


3 posted on 01/05/2015 9:53:01 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Jet Jaguar

Just port access to the drones to XBOX LIVE using a VIDEO GAME and problem solved.


4 posted on 01/05/2015 9:53:36 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

A man who had never run so much as a hot dog cart is somehow put in charge of the largest and most complex government on Earth. This is what happens.


5 posted on 01/05/2015 9:58:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Always the Air Force.

“”Unlike its sister services, who have all decided the best way to deal with demand for UAV pilots is to make it an enlisted career field, the Air Force currently insists on holding out for commissioned officers only. That means to fly a UAV in the Air Force, you’ll need a college degree, though not necessarily a pilot’s license. According to Brigadier General Lyn D. Sherlock, in this 2008 interview with Air Force Times, enlisted careers in UAVs are off the table for the moment “because battlefields are complex, joint environments that involve other aircraft and communicating with soldiers and airmen on the ground.”

Seems like plenty of enlisted aircrew already deal with that complexity, but so be it.””


6 posted on 01/05/2015 10:00:22 PM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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To: ansel12

Agreed. The sensor operators often pilot the craft anyway.


7 posted on 01/05/2015 10:09:26 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep.


8 posted on 01/05/2015 10:09:52 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: ansel12
The trees are the problem. They have tons of officers in missile bunkers that have been loitering for years. Give them an additional duty assignment.
9 posted on 01/05/2015 10:15:47 PM PST by Domangart (No Clinton's Bush!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

It took a lot of pressure to make them stop requiring that drone pilots be pilots on flight status.

A twisted ankle meant that the drone pilot was off flight status on drones.

The Air Force has serious weaknesses as far as being focused on what really counts, they are more like a bloated, self focused government agency, than a branch of the military.


10 posted on 01/05/2015 10:21:31 PM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

MFL.


11 posted on 01/05/2015 10:32:35 PM PST by matthew fuller (Obama's goal for the USA is strategic and economic parity with Kenya.)
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To: jsanders2001
Another genius who can't make a distinction between Hollywood and reality?
I love the "Terminator" franchise, but the suspension of disbelief necessary by moderately educated professional engineering and science types to enjoy that genre of entertainment is beyond monumental.
12 posted on 01/05/2015 11:24:37 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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So, you ask yourself some stupid questions. If you went through hundreds of hours of training, went through four years of college, and then went through a hearty pilot-instruction to become a F-15 or F-16 pilot, AND then some idiot said they needed you to be a seat-warmer and fly a drone for three years...how would you feel?

You sit there for X number of drone missions, and one night do something extraordinary....then a month later, there’s an award ceremony where they give you a Silver Star or big-time award...with smirks from the audience...you, the drone guy, getting some award that used to mean something but now it’s been all cheapen down. How would you feel?

My son at age sixteen....king of World of Warcraft....probably could have gone through a three-month orientation of the drone business and out flown ninety-percent of the pilots there. There’s tens of thousands of punk kids with the capability of flying the drone, killing bad guys when necessary, and sipping Mountain Dew by the case to stay awake.

I don’t buy into any of this garbage. While I did my twenty-odd years in the AF, I was in a field where it was generally one officer for every four enlisted. Most of the enlisted by ten years of service had at least an associates degree. Roughly fifty percent of the NCOs retiring at twenty had a bachelor’s degree. If they want more drone pilots....they’ve already got the people there and ready to go.

All this is....is a forced option where they get some idiot at the Pentagon to agree to bring in another 500 pilots into the Air Force. You can see the gimmick....how it’s rigged up....and it’ll relate to some number in the Pentagon budget.


13 posted on 01/05/2015 11:33:38 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Jet Jaguar

Perhaps the AF should turn it over to the Marines.


14 posted on 01/05/2015 11:34:37 PM PST by csvset
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To: pepsionice

Yep, it is clearly a case of leadership that has goals and ego-centric motivations that conflict with mission needs of the American military as a fighting force.


15 posted on 01/06/2015 12:47:23 AM PST by ansel12 (They hate us, because they ain't us.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Since the air force brass can’t figure out the solution, perhaps drone operations should be turned over to the army, together with the staffing slots and funding. If that works out, roll the whole AF back in.


16 posted on 01/06/2015 12:53:02 AM PST by PAR35
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There’s tens of thousands of punk kids with the capability of flying the drone, killing bad guys when necessary, and sipping Mountain Dew by the case to stay awake.

That was my first thought. I have a grandson (12) who would love this stuff. Only kid I have seen work a mouse with one hand and type away with the other.

17 posted on 01/06/2015 12:59:46 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: PAR35

back to the USAAF


18 posted on 01/06/2015 1:26:25 AM PST by xp38
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To: jsanders2001
Yep - that is exactly what I thought of. Heck - a computer can run all sorts of algorthyms based on what it observes a lot faster than a human.

Trading on the stock market today is mostly done automatically by computer algorthyms - with entire buildings in NYC being renovated for computers instead of office space. (True!)

Hmm - what is more worrisome? Some drones or our economy run by computers?

19 posted on 01/06/2015 1:49:26 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: jsanders2001

Skynet... as the millennials all say, “No problem”.


20 posted on 01/06/2015 2:18:14 AM PST by Rodamala
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