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To Obama, Cuban Missile Crisis isn't worth remembering
lowell sun ^ | 12/22 | peter Lucas

Posted on 12/23/2014 7:51:44 AM PST by luke1825

Barack Obama should have been around during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Had he been, he might have had second thoughts about propping up the dying Cuban Communist dictatorship of Fidel and Raul Castro. If Obama really wants change in Cuba, all he has to do is wait a while. Fidel is 88, Raul is 83.

Back then, in 1961 and 1962, the two hard-core communist revolutionaries wanted to attack the United States, and for a while, they were in possession of enough nuclear-tipped missiles supplied by the Soviet Union to do it


TOPICS: Cuba; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: castro; cuba; obama

1 posted on 12/23/2014 7:51:44 AM PST by luke1825
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To: luke1825

Why should he? He was just a twinkle in daddy Obama’s eye. Even growing up in the aftermath of Cuba 62, he was a rabid little Muslim in Indonesia.


2 posted on 12/23/2014 7:54:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: luke1825
Back then, in 1961 and 1962, the two hard-core communist revolutionaries wanted to attack the United States

Not a fan of the Castros or any other commies, but this is just stupid.

The Castros are obviously very canny politicians or they wouldn't have lasted this long. There is no reason at all to believe they were suicidal. Attacking the US would quite obviously have been suicide.

They wanted nukes and missiles mainly for defensive reasons, the same reason we and the Russians wanted them. We had, after all, launched an invasion of their country only a year or so before.

3 posted on 12/23/2014 7:57:52 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: luke1825

Obama isn’t at war with ISIS, Cuba or the Taliban.

Obama is at war with white America.


4 posted on 12/23/2014 8:02:37 AM PST by Iron Munro (D.H.S. has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: luke1825

He was one years old and a foreigner and has no clue of the American experience or a real mother and father that could enlighten him in later years
This is one of the reason he was not fit for the job


5 posted on 12/23/2014 8:04:11 AM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: luke1825

Sure, I’ll forget about it when I am not blamed for slavery anymore.


6 posted on 12/23/2014 8:05:39 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote
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To: luke1825

I honestly doubt that Obama has heard of it.

No Presidents have known less about America and its history.


7 posted on 12/23/2014 8:15:02 AM PST by Noamie
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To: luke1825
If Obama had been around during he Cuban Missile Crisis, he would have been urging Kruchev to fire the missiles.
8 posted on 12/23/2014 8:15:44 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Sherman Logan

It’s interesting to think that if Obama were in Kennedy’s place he would have allowed it without a fight.


9 posted on 12/23/2014 8:15:46 AM PST by Noamie
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To: luke1825

Castro never had control of the Russian missiles, fortunately.


10 posted on 12/23/2014 8:40:59 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Russia wanted them as an answer to our missiles in Turkey.

I was living on a main thoroughfare on the SW side of Miami at the time.
Was awakened in the night to Army trucks rumbling by towing Hawk and Nike missiles.
Interesting times.


11 posted on 12/23/2014 8:42:24 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: luke1825

They no longer have A vs C as a required course to graduate High-school.

Most of today’s youth (of voting age) haven’t a clue about communism, never mind the Cuban missile crisis.

I’m only a couple of months older than Obama, but was very fortunate to be born to God fearing parents, here in the USA, who made sure I went to a Christian school where I learned to love God and country and learn right from wrong.

With the exception of the home-schooled and those whose parents are well enough off to send their kids to private schools, today’s youth are adrift in a sea of liberalism clinging to a PC life raft riddled with holes.


12 posted on 12/23/2014 8:58:16 AM PST by Mrite
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To: luke1825

“In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” Franklin D. Roosevelt

For Obama and his Communist handlers to open diplomatic relations with Communist Cuba at this time didn’t happen without careful planning, so what could their agenda possibly be?

Could it be that with international oil prices plunging, Venezuela’s economy is on the verge of collapsing, and Cuba’s anemic economy depends heavily on Venezuela for support. If Venezuela’s economy collapses, Cuba’s economy will soon follow resulting in a flood of Cuban refugees arriving in Florida like never seen before, and, of course, Obama will be there to welcome another mass of “victims” into the Democrat/Communist Party USA.

This flood of Cuban refugees will have little or nothing in common with the previous flood of Cuban refugees who were fleeing Communism and are now registered Republicans in Florida. No, this flood will be nothing but hungry Communists looking for another Communist Dictator to take care of them...enter Obama.


13 posted on 12/23/2014 9:08:44 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Sherman Logan

There were 2 classes of Soviet nukes in Cuba: those mounted on IRBM missiles with enough range to reach a swath of US territory & short-range, so-called battlefield nukes. Fidel wanted control over the latter so that if the Marines landed he could nuke the invasion fleet (and possibly some US port facilities).


14 posted on 12/23/2014 9:10:43 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy
"There were 2 classes of Soviet nukes in Cuba: those mounted on IRBM missiles with enough range to reach a swath of US territory & short-range, so-called battlefield nukes. Fidel wanted control over the latter so that if the Marines landed he could nuke the invasion fleet (and possibly some US port facilities)."

You are correct. I was a Marine at that time and we were preparing to invade Cuba.

As a participant, I've viewed that bit of history much differently than most others. If Castro had gained control of those tactical nukes, he would have fired on the U.S. invasion fleet and Kennedy would have then destroyed the USSR. Khrushchev then realized he was dealing with two immature adolescents who would end the world as we know it, and he was the only adult in the group, so it was up to him to end the confrontation.

Over the years, JFK has been lauded for making Khrushchev back down, but I've always been thankful to Khrushchev for saving the world when two immature adolescents were hell-bent on destroying it.

15 posted on 12/23/2014 9:34:33 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Vinnie

I’m afraid too few people remember the “Cuban Crisis” We came damn close to nuclear war. Praise God JFK got his Cuban cigars the night before we declared embargo. It cost Kruschev his job, but we did not go to war: quite. And yes, we moved the Jupiter missles out of Turkey about a year later. Pure coincident no doubt.


16 posted on 12/23/2014 9:37:06 AM PST by Barkeep99
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To: Mrite; All

Unfortunately, I can confirm that the left has marched through private schools as well, poisoning the minds of the well-to-dos children as well (see all “God and Man at Yale” and “Harvard Hates America”)


17 posted on 12/23/2014 10:12:54 AM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the party of Amnesty, Abortion, and Adolescence)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Who ignore history is damned to repeat it.” George Santayana.

JFK’s “dreary account of mismanagement, timidity and indecision” as Eisenhower described his handling of the Bay of Pigs invasion emboldened the Soviets to install Nuclear missiles in Cuba the following year.

Khrushchev documents in his memoirs how Castro pleaded with him to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack on the U.S. in October of 1962. The telegram making the plea sits in the Kennedy Library today. Some think Khrushchev’s fear of Castro’s officers somehow getting hold of the Nuclear buttons was a bigger factor in his decision to remove the Missiles than the “blockade” (in fact, 55 ships breached it) imposed by the Kennedy administration around Cuba at the time.

The prudence of Khrushchev’s decision was revealed the following month by Castro’s second- in - command, Che Guevara. “If the missiles had remained,” he told The London Daily Worker in November 1962 “We would have used them against the very heart of the U.S., including New York. We must never establish peaceful co-existence. In this struggle to the death between 2 systems we must gain the ultimate victory. We must walk the path of liberation even if it costs millions of atomic victims.”

He didn’t get his hands on the missiles but Castro emerged the big winner of the Missile Crisis. “Many concessions were made by the Americans about which not a word has been said...perhaps one day they’ll be made public,” said Fidel Castro in a speech in 1966.

“We can’t say anything public about this agreement. It would be too much of a political embarrassment for us.” That’s Robert F Kennedy to Soviet ambassador Anatoly Dobrynin in October of 1962.

The Cuban regime tried to obliterate New York and Washington with a nuclear attack during the October Missile Crisis of 1962. “In November 1962, the Castro brothers’ and Che Guevara’s agents had targeted Macy’s, Gimbels, Bloomingdales, and Manhattan’s Grand Central Station with a dozen incendiary devices and 500 kilos of TNT. The Holocaust was set for detonation the following week, on the day after Thanksgiving.” (Humberto Fontova)

Castro has been a strong ally of Islamic terrorism. Cuba continues to serve as a base for coordination and mutual support among transnational terrorist organizations. At Tehran University he stated to the thunderous applause of students and faculty, “The imperialist king will finally fall,” (AFP, May 10, 2001). Immediately afterward the Iranian Press Service proudly proclaimed that “Iran and Cuba reached the conclusion that together they can tear down the United States.” (IPS, May 10, 2001).

According to World renown and highly respected American investigative journalist and author, Claire Sterling, : “All of the world’s emerging terrorist bands in the 1970’s were indebted to the Cubans and their Russian patrons for that honeycomb of camps around Havana. None could have started without rudimentary training, and those who didn’t train in Cuba were trained by others who did.” (“The Terror Network, The Secret War on International Terrorism.”)

As reported by Sterling, “Castro was training the advance guards of the coming European fright decade – Palestinians, Italians, Germans, French, Spanish Basques – and forming guerrilla nuclei in practically every Western hemisphere state south of the American border. As far back as 1962, Castro’s camps were taking in 1,500 Latin American guerrillas a year. . ‘Any revolutionary movement anywhere in the world can count on Cuba’s unconditional support,’ declared Castro at the 1966 Tricontinental Conference in Havana”. It was then and there that the international terrorism network was consolidated under Castro’s leadership.”

Fidel Castro “jailed political prisoners at a higher rate than Stalin during the Great Terror. He murdered more Cubans in his first three years in power than Hitler murdered Germans during his first six. He came closer than anyone in history to starting a world-wide nuclear war.” Humberto Fontova. (http://www.carolinajournal.com/opinions/display_story.html?id=11121)

It is suicidal turning a blind eye to Castro, a deadly enemy at 90 miles south of Key West that does not hide his hatred for U.S.

After the restoration of diplomatic relations comes the end of the embargo.

To complete Obama’s betrayal of the American people, with the normalization of relations comes the opening to Cuba of the American and International bank credits that will sustain the Cuban regimen passing to the American taxpayers the same heavy burden that helped to bankrupt the Soviet Union.


18 posted on 12/23/2014 5:52:58 PM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPx.jpg)
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