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NAZI OFFENSIVE PIERCES FIRST ARMY LINES; CHUTISTS AND LUFTWAFFE SUPPORT PUSH (12/18/44)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library
| 12/18/44
| Drew Middleton, Harold Denny, Milton Bracker, Raymond Daniell, Frank L. Kluckhohn, Tillman Durdin
Posted on 12/18/2014 4:24:50 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: BroJoeK
Not paratroopers, maybe an artillery unit trying to bug out.
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posted on
12/18/2014 1:17:59 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: BroJoeK
Next thing you know, I'll be telling you that the Soviets staged photos for propaganda purposes! I just can't be trusted.
Not only did Goebbels get his propaganda, he gave future military history buffs more footage to put under the microscope. There is a fair amount of information out there on the 'net about those particular stills, complete with with disagreement about the identity of the SS man who is holding the Browning P-35 in at least one photo.
Mr. niteowl77
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posted on
12/18/2014 1:27:02 PM PST
by
niteowl77
(The five stages of Progressive persuasion: lecture, nudge, shove, arrest, liquidate.)
To: Tax-chick
I nominate the “attack to the rear” campaign of the Chosin Reservoir in Korea.
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posted on
12/18/2014 1:32:55 PM PST
by
henkster
(Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
To: BroJoeK; niteowl77
Somehow I don’t think that Kampfgruppe Hansen staged the photos of the murdered Belgians or American POWs.
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posted on
12/18/2014 1:35:56 PM PST
by
henkster
(Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
To: dfwgator
Of all the Band of Brothers episodes, the Battle of the Bulge seen through the eyes of the combat medic was the one that disturbed me the most.
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posted on
12/18/2014 1:37:42 PM PST
by
henkster
(Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
To: alfa6; Homer_J_Simpson
Just wait till next year when those Nip tanks get to meet T34/85s in Manchuria.
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posted on
12/18/2014 1:42:40 PM PST
by
henkster
(Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
To: Tax-chick
Somewhere, I read an analysis that said that, when the first days objectives werent all achieved, there was virtually no chance of the attacks turning the course of the war. That's more accurate.
While the movie "Battle of the Bulge" was one of the most awful war movies ever made (solidly in the bottom 5), the one thing I did like about the movie was the "clock" the Germans had to run their operation, and how they were constantly behind schedule.
Other than that, the movie stunk like a wet goat.
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posted on
12/18/2014 1:48:27 PM PST
by
henkster
(Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
To: henkster
It had a good cast, though.
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posted on
12/18/2014 1:59:06 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Un molino, la vida nos tritura con dolor.)
To: Tax-chick
Fonda, Bronson, Ryan, Savalas, Shaw...It was a waste of a good cast.
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posted on
12/18/2014 2:02:34 PM PST
by
henkster
(Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
To: henkster
And Ricardo Montalban, quien era mas macho.
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posted on
12/18/2014 3:20:35 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Un molino, la vida nos tritura con dolor.)
To: Tax-chick
Khan Noonien Singh was in “Battleground” the good Battle of the Bulge movie.
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posted on
12/18/2014 5:09:57 PM PST
by
GreenLanternCorps
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To: GreenLanternCorps
Agreed. For its time “Battleground” was a great picture. Who was Khan Noonien Singh? I looked for the name at imdb.com but didn’t see it.
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posted on
12/18/2014 5:25:52 PM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
The character played by Ricardo Montalban in a 1960s “Star Trek” episode, and then in a movie, “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.”
Did I mention he was mas macho? I took Spanish all through high school and college, and we often watched documentaries that he had narrated. I could listen to him read the phone book for hours, but listening to him talk about Southwestern folk art was even better.
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posted on
12/18/2014 5:36:35 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Un molino, la vida nos tritura con dolor.)
To: Tax-chick; GreenLanternCorps
The character played by Ricardo Montalban in a 1960s Star Trek episode, and then in a movie, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.You got me. I should have searched on the name and not just scanned the entire cast of "Battleground."
As I recall the studio was reluctant to make the movie in 1949, figuring the public was about warred out. It succeeded at the box office nonetheless. It had an air of being made by men who had personal knowledge of service in the war. Little things like the truckload of paratroopers saying with sarcastic relish "you found a hooome in the army".
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posted on
12/18/2014 6:02:17 PM PST
by
Homer_J_Simpson
("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
To: Homer_J_Simpson
and not just scanned the entire cast of "Battleground."LOL!
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posted on
12/18/2014 6:03:31 PM PST
by
Tax-chick
(Un molino, la vida nos tritura con dolor.)
To: Homer_J_Simpson; Tax-chick
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posted on
12/19/2014 5:34:31 AM PST
by
GreenLanternCorps
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Tax-chick
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posted on
12/19/2014 5:41:35 AM PST
by
GreenLanternCorps
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To: Tax-chick; dfwgator; Homer_J_Simpson; BroJoeK; henkster; Vermont Lt
Germany’s version of Market-Garden - “A Bridge Too Far”?
The German generals thought so but, as Alfred Jodl was quoted, “I am not prepared to dispute the Fuehrer.”
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posted on
12/19/2014 9:31:51 AM PST
by
PapaNew
(The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
To: Homer_J_Simpson; Tax-chick; dfwgator; colorado tanker; BroJoeK; henkster; Vermont Lt
Speaking of “Kraut tanks”, anybody know how many of those fearsome Tiger II tanks were deployed in this offensive? I read these tanks were brutal but such gas guzzlers that they couldn’t supply them with enough gas.
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posted on
12/19/2014 9:39:11 AM PST
by
PapaNew
(The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
To: Tax-chick; Homer_J_Simpson
Star Trek Wrath of Khan was my first date with Mrs. Henkster. I knew then she was the one. Any girl who would go see a Star Trek movie is a keeper.
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posted on
12/19/2014 9:56:26 AM PST
by
henkster
(Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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