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Philadelphia Police Officer Shoots Suspect in Head During Deadly Struggle
NBC Philly ^ | 12-15-14 | Dan Stamm

Posted on 12/15/2014 10:51:51 PM PST by smokingfrog

The family of a man shot in the head and killed by a Philadelphia police officer sought answers in the hours after the deadly incident during a traffic stop in the city’s Mayfair section.

The deadly gunshot rang out around 2:45 a.m. along the 6600 block of Frankford Avenue after police said the suspect reached for a loaded handgun — stolen last year — in his rental car.

"I would like to know why the police, law enforcement, has the right to kill instead of disabling," the victim's mother Tanya Dickerson said. "It has to stop, this is enough already."

Dickerson later identified her son Brandon Tate-Brown as gunshot victim.

Dickerson said that her son served five years in prison for aggravated assault stemming from a 2007 beating where he was charged with attempted murder. She said that since his release from prison, Tate-Brown was trying to get his life back on track — working at a rental car place — being a "good guy."

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcphiladelphia.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; momfailed; naacp; pennsylvania; philadelphia; policeshooting; typical
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Philly does have a real history of finding weapons in a car driven by a black man with a criminal record. I was visited by the FBI back in 1995 over such cases. The Philly Northeast Detectives unit got caught doing it on a grand scale. It is an easy way to get what they wanted off the street. A convicted felon with a handgun is an automatic five years in the state prison. My handgun was stolen from my home, fenced to the police, and used in such an arrest about six months after it was stolen. I eventually got the gun back.

The FBI did a sting operation by driving undercover agents up and down North Broad Street in hood popular cars. When one would get stopped, there was a criminal record to match the driver. All the sudden a weapon would be recovered from the vehicle when none was there prior to the stop.

Not all cops are pure as a prom date. Their logic was that they were just getting people off the street who would be committing a crime soon anyway based on their record.

21 posted on 12/15/2014 11:14:53 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: House Atreides

Again, I strongly urge everyone to obtain a copy of their local police department’s deadly force or other force policy. You would be amazed at how much disinformation reviewing the policies would clear up. If the mamma’s and Al Sharpton’s of this world want answers, I suggest they start there. It’s all in writing and it’s what the cops have been trained to. IMHO, it’s written to make sure the shootee is dead, dead, dead, for liability reasons(it’s cheaper to settle a death suit that a lifetime disability suit). But that is a whole different topic for another day.


22 posted on 12/15/2014 11:21:38 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: smokingfrog

Love these ignorant fools that have obviously never even so much as fired a pistol before thinking you can just shoot someone whereever you want no prob...

Go bring a pistol to the range and see how hard it is to put one exactly where you want one, mom.


23 posted on 12/15/2014 11:21:46 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: blackdog

And the press doesn’t bother to report that kind of information any more.


24 posted on 12/15/2014 11:24:50 PM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Actually I disagree. My dad worked in a state prison. Most black male urban folks remain within a very limited distance of their home turf. When we would be out and about town, he knew who he would be running into in what sections of town. He was usually right. He always carried. He was also fairly well respected by the inmates who were released and out. They never gave him any trouble to speak of. He wouldn’t turn his back on them either.


25 posted on 12/15/2014 11:28:06 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: chris37

This appears to be the guy ... Maybe.


26 posted on 12/15/2014 11:31:14 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: chris37

Him?

https://www.facebook.com/brandon.tatebrown


27 posted on 12/15/2014 11:31:56 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: TYVets
My guess is that he was not working for Welcome Wagon

Yep. He was carrying to protect himself from his "friends" with whom he was still running. He knew he was going back to the graybar hotel, not just the county clink, if the cop found his gun, even though this was just a traffic stop.

Seeing the gun, the cop knew that failing his self-preservation instinct, someone else would be collecting his pension.

Quad Erat Demonstratum.

28 posted on 12/15/2014 11:32:11 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: smokingfrog
"I would like to know why the police, law enforcement, has the right to kill instead of disabling," the victim's mother Tanya Dickerson said. "It has to stop, this is enough already."

Everyone has that right when someone threatens their life, dumbass.

29 posted on 12/15/2014 11:32:19 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: chris37
I can't hit a target at 50 feet with a handgun. At 25 feet I might get six of 14 rounds on the paper.

Now a rifle is another matter. I can keep six shots in a half dollar at 100 yards.

That is why in my house I use a double barrel coach shotgun with spreader loads. You just point in the general direction and you won't miss. The pattern is five feet in diameter ten feet out.

30 posted on 12/15/2014 11:32:45 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog

Territories drift and spread. It is why certain areas than never had any problems gradually start developing them. We see this in urban areas where the immediate suburbs start having the same kinds of crime problems by the same kinds of people in the inner city, they begin branching out.


31 posted on 12/15/2014 11:32:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: blackdog
Philly does have a real history of finding weapons in a car driven by a black man with a criminal record.

You're missing the point. In your scenario, the perp goes to (or back to) jail but lives.

32 posted on 12/15/2014 11:36:27 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: blackdog
Philly people need a little different kind of policing than regular normal people. The people there are like people on steroids. Hyper, Jersey shore-type people. It shows in every election. Pennsylvania usually has about a 50-60% turnout. Philly precincts? 102-3% is normal.

In the words of the late mayor and Police Chief Frank Rizzo, "Om gawna come down on these people so hard, Om gawna make Attila the F%$&in Hun look like a F%$&in faggot."

Yo, FBI, Sting this.

33 posted on 12/15/2014 11:38:25 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: smokingfrog
Dickerson said Tate-Brown's family contacted the NAACP to also investigate the case.

26 years old, 5 years in prison for attempted murder, gun in the car. I don't think there's enough sympathy here to get the race baiters involved.

34 posted on 12/15/2014 11:40:17 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: blackdog
The pattern is five feet in diameter ten feet out.

What? What is a "spreader load?" Is it only sold in Philly? Tough on the drywall.

35 posted on 12/15/2014 11:40:51 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: smokingfrog

excellent shot placment. It took wilson 5 shots before he hit Brown in the head.


36 posted on 12/15/2014 11:52:59 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

A spreader load is sold by Orvis. The shot inside the shell is not round like regular shot. It’s fed thru a press and squashed into sort of a hockey puck shape. The result is quite predictable. No range and complete scatter right out of the barrel. I’m not kidding either, you will hit everything floor to ceiling at the far end of a room 20’ long. The load will not go thru the wall and hurt anyone in any adjoining living space. IOW, you won’t accidentally shoot your kids in the next room with handgun loads going thru the wall.


37 posted on 12/16/2014 12:06:48 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: chris37

“Go bring a pistol to the range and see how hard it is to put one exactly where you want one, mom.”

Then add in poor lighting and the stress of thinking that your “target” may shoot back, and unless you’re well-trained, accuracy is a fond memory.


38 posted on 12/16/2014 12:16:33 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Kenny Bunk
After six generations in the same place, I had enough of my heritage as a Chestnut Hill / Philly native. So did all the rest of my relatives. We got out. From 1994 thru 1999, the entire clan moved away.

"Philly people need a little different kind of policing than regular normal people"..........You mean like W.Wilson Goode dropping bombs on houses and burning down five square blocks? Like Sammy Aggresta?

I do miss Fairmount Park though. I used to keep my horses there. I spent my teen years riding thru the trails and paths with my friends every day after school and at night on weekends. Something nostalgic over my memories of drinking beers at 15 on Saturday night with the mounted cops. Better days to be a kid.

39 posted on 12/16/2014 12:26:35 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: blackdog
If I were the cops, I’d refuse to enter the neighborhoods where these feral animals roam. Let them have what they are asking for. Let them kill each other, that way it won’t be a controversy or even make the local news.

Trouble is, these choir boys don't stay in those neighborhoods. Too bad we can't fence them in.

40 posted on 12/16/2014 12:31:01 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (Arguing with a liberal is like arguing with a rat about whether he eats people scraps.)
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