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1 posted on 12/13/2014 6:16:00 AM PST by Liz
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The question at the hearing was not just what he made from HHS, but what he was paid by every federal and state entity.


2 posted on 12/13/2014 6:18:47 AM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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3 posted on 12/13/2014 6:21:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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It’s funny how Obamacare has gone from an “exact copy” of Romneycare, according to the media during the last presidential election, to a “distant cousin” now.


5 posted on 12/13/2014 6:29:59 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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Gruber should be indicted for fraud


9 posted on 12/13/2014 6:41:20 AM PST by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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Has anyone actually tested Herr Gruber’s model, or did the lazy Democrats simply take his word for its existence because he teaches at MIT? After all, this only took over the health care of millions of Americans and one-sixth ofthe economy. We taxpayers, who fund this monstrosity, should demand to see Gruber’s model.


11 posted on 12/13/2014 6:46:04 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Liz
Ezekiel J. Emanuel, who was the special adviser for health policy to the director of the White House Office of Management and Budget from January 2009 to January 2011, told us in a phone interview, “He was a consultant who, quote, ran the numbers,” meaning that “he did the estimates of how much, when you change things in a proposal, how that would affect the number of people covered and the cost of the program.”

Emanuel, who is now vice provost for global initiatives and chair of the Department of Medical Ethics and Health Policy at the University of Pennsylvania, says calling Gruber “the architect” of the law is “utter, total nonsense.”

In his book “Reinventing American Health Care,” which was published in March, Emanuel mentions Gruber just once, in the context of economic modeling. He writes that the White House was concerned about how the CBO would score the cost of legislation. Emanuel says his brother, then-White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, and the president “established a very firm maximum-cost limit” of $1 trillion over 10 years. They wanted half of the money to come from savings in existing programs and half to come from new revenue, Emanuel writes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/09/AR2007070902029.html

For Democrats, Pragmatism On Universal Health Care

Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 10, 2007

In a conference call in January, the health-care debate within the Democratic Party played out before former senator John Edwards of North Carolina, who was in search of policy advice for his presidential campaign, and his wife, Elizabeth.

On one side was Ezekiel Emanuel, a doctor and bioethics expert and the brother of Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), arguing that the American health-care system is so riddled with inefficiencies that it needs to be blown up and replaced by a plan in which people can buy coverage themselves with a voucher.

On the other side was an economist from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who has become possibly the party's most influential health-care expert and a voice of realism in its internal debates.

“Far be it for me to lecture you on politics, Senator Edwards,” Jonathan Gruber recalled saying, and then he did just that. He told Edwards that whatever the merits of Emanuel's idea, it just would not be politically viable. Instead, Gruber argued for a more incremental approach, like the one in Massachusetts he helped write. Its central elements would be providing subsidies to people who are unable to pay for health care, increasing the number of those who are enrolled in public programs such as Medicaid and creating a public agency to help anyone ineligible for the programs buy health insurance.

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14 posted on 12/13/2014 6:54:42 AM PST by maggief
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I am sure he feels he was worth every dime.


15 posted on 12/13/2014 6:57:46 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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Bernis Madoff in federal prison for fraud. Marha Stewart was jailed for a time for fraud. Gruber free to come and go still collecting money from states and the feds for a fraudulent scheme. Tell me what is wrong here. Should not Gruber be in jail awaiting a trial? how can MIT maintain a relationship with Gruber when his economic models are faulty. I for one would not want Gruber anywhere near my college or even his published manuscripts should be pulled as questionable works of academia.


17 posted on 12/13/2014 7:34:18 AM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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Don’t listen to what I said then, listen to what I am saying now. It’s amazing to me how this whole thing is ever-changing. I can’t wait until we get to the part where the Democrats had nothing to do with ACA because the Republicans stole it, changed it and duped the Demicrats into to passing it.


18 posted on 12/13/2014 7:43:54 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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Leigh Bureau, Gruber’s agent, scrubbed him off their page. Here is a cached version.
“Jonathan Gruber is the most sought-after analyst of the costs and benefits of healthcare reform. He was a principal architect of Massachusetts’ landmark reforms, and a key adviser to the Obama administration in its creation of the Affordable Care Act. His new book, Health Care Reform: What It Is, Why It’s Necessary, How It Works, is an innovative and accessible graphic treatment of the ACA and a powerful argument for the individual mandate. “
on this page is his NOBLIS speech about the ACA (jan 18, 2012)


20 posted on 12/13/2014 9:24:16 AM PST by machogirl
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