Posted on 12/13/2014 6:16:00 AM PST by Liz
The question at the hearing was not just what he made from HHS, but what he was paid by every federal and state entity.
No question---and now Chairman Issa has subpoenaed all documents relating to the work Gruber did in about 15 states....estimated to have earned him some $5 million.
When Pelosi said ACA was a "jobs bill" she was right---except that Gruber got all the jobs.
Cong Issa asserted that Gruber repeatedly refused to tell the taxpayers (and Congress) the amount of taxpayer funds he received for his work on ObamaCare......and that a full accounting was required. Issa's subpoena means that Gruber (and the Dumbocrats) will be media fodder for the time being.
It’s funny how Obamacare has gone from an “exact copy” of Romneycare, according to the media during the last presidential election, to a “distant cousin” now.
As a former contracting officer in the military I know that single source personal service contracts, especially ones of that dollar value, require a document trail miles long to authorize. Its out there if some starry eyed reporter/reporterette wants a Nobel prize.
Michigan legislators will request that relevant state agencies investigate the state’s deal with Gruber...... they want to know (1) how Gruber was selected, and, (2) what services he provided for the money.
The states' selection process is crucial----(1) to scrutinize the credentials Gruber presented to states, (2) his monetary requirements, and, (3) what he based his expertise on.
“Mr. Gruber appears to be a very devious man – perhaps with a proclivity for fraud,” Michigan state Rep. McMillin said in an email.
Obama is downplaying Gruber's role, claiming he had no part in passing O/care. But if Gruber was NOT the Obamacare architect---then Gruber took money from states under false pretenses and should be prosecuted for govt fraud.
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FREEPER GAFFER INSIGHTFULLY POSTED: I realize that there is a fixed cost for the “program model” he uses and likely some sort of licensing fee. However, some of these contracts have “consulting” components which usually involve estimates of time needed.
I find it difficult to believe he can have that much available time. There are only about 1900-2000 work hours per year in normal situations. If you couple that with the amount of time he has to spend as an MIT professor doing something, where did he have the time to apply to all these contracts?
....as to Gruber's multiple govt contracts over the last six years: How were they bid? What was the pricing structure. Did he falsify his work schedule? Was he working on simultaneous govt contracts, and getting paid as a "full-time" consultant? The WH can give out contracts however they want (e.g., sole source), but the contract eventually has to go through some sort of award audit for review and approval......
Liz,
Thank you for this. My first comment was that factcheck was being disingenuous looking at only the HHS funding of Gruber.
Gruber should be indicted for fraud
iirc wasn’t this one of the prominent pro-obamacare arguments on DU? iow, why are you repubs arguing against your own healthcare system design, romneycare, when you argue against obamacare...
Has anyone actually tested Herr Gruber’s model, or did the lazy Democrats simply take his word for its existence because he teaches at MIT? After all, this only took over the health care of millions of Americans and one-sixth ofthe economy. We taxpayers, who fund this monstrosity, should demand to see Gruber’s model.
Need to look into consulting contracts with the SSA, NSF, etc.
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10 Obamacare Questions Answered by MIT Economist Jonathan Gruber
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3. What are the major differences between Romney’s and Obama’s plans?
They are the same bleeping bill! ...
My comment was about the fickle media, not socialized medicine. I support neither Obamacare, nor Romneycare.
Emanuel, who is now vice provost for global initiatives and chair of the Department of Medical Ethics and Health Policy at the University of Pennsylvania, says calling Gruber “the architect” of the law is “utter, total nonsense.”
In his book “Reinventing American Health Care,” which was published in March, Emanuel mentions Gruber just once, in the context of economic modeling. He writes that the White House was concerned about how the CBO would score the cost of legislation. Emanuel says his brother, then-White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, and the president “established a very firm maximum-cost limit” of $1 trillion over 10 years. They wanted half of the money to come from savings in existing programs and half to come from new revenue, Emanuel writes.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/09/AR2007070902029.html
For Democrats, Pragmatism On Universal Health Care
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 10, 2007
In a conference call in January, the health-care debate within the Democratic Party played out before former senator John Edwards of North Carolina, who was in search of policy advice for his presidential campaign, and his wife, Elizabeth.
On one side was Ezekiel Emanuel, a doctor and bioethics expert and the brother of Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), arguing that the American health-care system is so riddled with inefficiencies that it needs to be blown up and replaced by a plan in which people can buy coverage themselves with a voucher.
On the other side was an economist from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who has become possibly the party's most influential health-care expert and a voice of realism in its internal debates.
“Far be it for me to lecture you on politics, Senator Edwards,” Jonathan Gruber recalled saying, and then he did just that. He told Edwards that whatever the merits of Emanuel's idea, it just would not be politically viable. Instead, Gruber argued for a more incremental approach, like the one in Massachusetts he helped write. Its central elements would be providing subsidies to people who are unable to pay for health care, increasing the number of those who are enrolled in public programs such as Medicaid and creating a public agency to help anyone ineligible for the programs buy health insurance.
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I am sure he feels he was worth every dime.
i was not criticizing you, sorry for confusion...
Bernis Madoff in federal prison for fraud. Marha Stewart was jailed for a time for fraud. Gruber free to come and go still collecting money from states and the feds for a fraudulent scheme. Tell me what is wrong here. Should not Gruber be in jail awaiting a trial? how can MIT maintain a relationship with Gruber when his economic models are faulty. I for one would not want Gruber anywhere near my college or even his published manuscripts should be pulled as questionable works of academia.
Don’t listen to what I said then, listen to what I am saying now. It’s amazing to me how this whole thing is ever-changing. I can’t wait until we get to the part where the Democrats had nothing to do with ACA because the Republicans stole it, changed it and duped the Demicrats into to passing it.
He operated across state lines...
can you RICO an individual....?
or maybe add in whoever signed off on all those lucrative consulting gigs.
RICO them all.
Leigh Bureau, Gruber’s agent, scrubbed him off their page. Here is a cached version.
“Jonathan Gruber is the most sought-after analyst of the costs and benefits of healthcare reform. He was a principal architect of Massachusetts’ landmark reforms, and a key adviser to the Obama administration in its creation of the Affordable Care Act. His new book, Health Care Reform: What It Is, Why It’s Necessary, How It Works, is an innovative and accessible graphic treatment of the ACA and a powerful argument for the individual mandate. “
on this page is his NOBLIS speech about the ACA (jan 18, 2012)
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