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Deer hunter’s 8-point trophy wasn’t a buck
The Wichita Eagle ^ | Updated 12/06/2014 7:11 AM | Michael Pearce

Posted on 12/08/2014 7:29:35 AM PST by Paleo Conservative

Hunters from all parts of the country come to Kansas hoping to shoot a buck with a trophy-class set of antlers.

Well, for Chuck Rorie, half of the dream came true Wednesday afternoon when he shot what he thought was a nice buck. Instead, the set of eight-point antlers were attached to a doe.

“I didn’t think much about it; it just looked like a nice buck when I was watching it and shot it,” said Rorie, of Monroe, N.C. “But when I was skinning it I realized something didn’t look right. It didn’t have the right private parts.

“I whispered to my dad to look because I didn’t want to sound like some (dummy). When he looked, said he saw (female parts), too.

“I’m tickled to death. I know this is a once in a lifetime thing.”

According to biologists, it’s actually more like a once in many lifetimes thing.

“I think the last number I heard at a scientific meeting was something like one in about 10,000 will have antlers,” said Grant Woods, a Missouri-based biologist with 25 years’ experience researching whitetail deer who hosts a television show on deer management. “It’s rare, but it’s certainly going to happen.”

Keith Sexson, assistant secretary for the Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks and Tourism, has been with the agency for 46 years, mostly as a biologist. He estimates he has heard of no more than 15 antlered does in Kansas in all that time.

“Really, that may be a high number,” he said. “I know it hasn’t been very often.”

Woods said does with antlers are simply does with high amounts of testosterone, a hormone found in all does, though normally in very low amounts. It happens in most species of mammals.

“Excessive testosterone is why some women have more facial hair than others,” he said. “In deer, that’s expressed in antler growth.”

Woods also said that in-depth research on antlered does is fairly limited, but added that most does with antlers only have short, spindly antlers. Rorie’s 225-pound doe had fairly thick antlers about 17 inches wide, with eight normal-size points. He said his doe’s antlers were also shiny and rock-hard, like you would expect from a buck’s headgear.

Frequently, according to Woods, antlered does have fuzzy antlers still covered in what’s known as velvet, a soft covering antlers have when they’re growing. In bucks, that’s basically May through August. High testosterone levels cause bucks to rub the velvet from their antlers before the autumn breeding season, and to eventually shed their antlers in the winter so a new set can begin growing.

Most does that have enough hormone to spur antler growth lack enough testosterone to cause the deer to polish or shed their antlers. Again, that’s what helps make Rorie’s whitetail pretty unique.

“They just looked like a nice set of eight-point antlers,” Rorie said. “You could see tree bark on the antlers where she’d been rubbing them against trees, like a buck.”

Rorie was hunting in western Sedgwick County with Anthony Youngers, a native of that area now living in North Carolina. Youngers, and his Kansas family, hosted Rorie and several others from North Carolina on their family farm and property owned by neighbors.

Wednesday was opening day of firearms deer season, and Rorie was in a wooden ground blind overlooking a hay field. Several does came out to feed. In a few minutes three young bucks came to the field and started chasing those does around the field, hoping to get a chance to breed.

What Rorie thought was the fourth buck was last to come out on to the field. Impressed with the antlers, he shot it.

In hindsight he said he should have noticed that deer’s neck wasn’t swollen like those of the other lust-fueled bucks, and the deer was also colored more like the does in the field than the bucks. It also wasn’t chasing the does.

“It was … trying to follow the does around, but they wanted nothing to do with her,” Rorie said. “I guess they saw the antlers and just assumed.”

Though rare and impressive, the antlers on Rorie’s doe are far from the largest ever found on a female whitetail deer. Woods said many antlered does have clusters of points going in all directions, known as cactus racks. They happen because the antlers don’t completely harden, or fall off, and each year more and more keep growing.

In 2008, a Kansas hunter near Clay Center shot a doe with 27 points and 179 inches of antler based on the Boone and Crockett scoring system.

The antlers of Rorie’s Kansas deer score about 115 inches, and he has plans on getting the deer mounted. No matter whether on a buck or on a doe, he said the antlers would be considered exceptional around his home in North Carolina.

“We don’t have many big bucks,” he said. “So when a guy brings a buck into the processor I’ll be able to tell him I’ve killed a doe a lot bigger than that buck they just shot.

“I’ll have a lot of fun with this.”

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/outdoors/article4304625.html#storylink=cpy


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Kansas
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Chuck Rorie, of Monroe, N.C., thought he had shot a buck when he killed this eight-pointer in Sedgwick County. It turned out to be a rare doe with antlers.


1 posted on 12/08/2014 7:29:35 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

I never knew that could happen.


2 posted on 12/08/2014 7:32:18 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Geez...a trannie deer? Where will it end?


3 posted on 12/08/2014 7:32:18 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescInfowars has more credibilty)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Good kill, get that freak deer out of the gene pool.
Nice rack!!


4 posted on 12/08/2014 7:32:28 AM PST by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

frikkin’ trandgenders are EVERY frikkin’ where !


5 posted on 12/08/2014 7:32:35 AM PST by knarf
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To: Paleo Conservative

Bad day out for him. Now he’s got trouble with the Game Warden, PETA and the LGBQT crowd.


6 posted on 12/08/2014 7:32:45 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Probably still worth a few bucks.

Remember now...

Doe is a FEMALE Deer!


7 posted on 12/08/2014 7:32:47 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Joe Biden has asked that the man be given the Death Penalty...and Al Sharpton is busily organizng PROTESTS in Rural Centers across the Nation....


8 posted on 12/08/2014 7:32:52 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Paleo Conservative

“That’s a man, baby.”


9 posted on 12/08/2014 7:33:57 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity (Liars use facts when the truth doesn't suit their purposes.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Did he have Doe tags?


10 posted on 12/08/2014 7:34:31 AM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Its the Rosie O’Donnell of deer


11 posted on 12/08/2014 7:34:34 AM PST by kidd (What we have now is the federal gruberment)
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To: knarf

Must making dating horribly difficult for the singles of today.


12 posted on 12/08/2014 7:34:47 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: Paleo Conservative

13 posted on 12/08/2014 7:35:19 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: who knows what evil?
Geez...a trannie deer? Where will it end?

Diesel Dyke Deer?

14 posted on 12/08/2014 7:35:36 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Paleo Conservative

Nice rack on that broad.


15 posted on 12/08/2014 7:36:00 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Question has come up more than once to our game warden— “If you shoot/kill a deer with antlers (and shoot it when it is NOT doe season) are you in violation?
Answer: NO, because you can’t “sex type” a deer from a stand or a still hunt (bow, black powder... whatever). Second answer: the likelihood of a doe with antlers is 1/10,000.

And, on the albino question— no restrictions either. They are just one of many. An albino buck— pretty rare too.


16 posted on 12/08/2014 7:36:14 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Paleo Conservative

““I’m tickled to death. I know this is a once in a lifetime thing.”

I doubt it, there’s probably more just didn’t get noticed............... because it wasn’t wearing a rhinestone cape and pink G string.


17 posted on 12/08/2014 7:36:37 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: Paleo Conservative

Hey, she’s got a nice rack!


18 posted on 12/08/2014 7:36:40 AM PST by WakeUpAndVote
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To: V_TWIN

WELL, IS HE GONNA EAT IT?


19 posted on 12/08/2014 7:37:10 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: trisham

Maybe it’s related to that moose The Hobbit’s Fairy King rides.


20 posted on 12/08/2014 7:38:10 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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