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Russia To Conduct Observation Flight Over US
msn/Int'l Business Times ^ | 12/8/14 | Kukil Bora

Posted on 12/08/2014 6:50:27 AM PST by illiac

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To: ScottinVA

I know that. Still a dumb treaty....


21 posted on 12/08/2014 7:28:44 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: illiac
I know that. Still a dumb treaty....

I agree... some just seemed to be under the impression it was a new development.

22 posted on 12/08/2014 7:33:16 AM PST by ScottinVA (We either destroy ISIS there... or fight them here. Pick one, America.)
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To: illiac

This is actually called for in the treaty.

Under basic rules of reciprocity, I presume that a companion flight by our Air Force over Russia is also scheduled in the near-term?


23 posted on 12/08/2014 7:58:33 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: illiac

We should NOT be allowing this. Russia doesn’t allow us to do this over their soil.


24 posted on 12/08/2014 8:46:30 AM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Nope. Russia said “Nyet”...


25 posted on 12/08/2014 9:24:51 AM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: illiac
Lets just give them the keys to the country....

C'mon, guys, let's not over react.
The open skies treaty was a good thing, it allows the U.S. flights over the Soviet Union too.

Remember, we have always had the technological advantage over the soviets, and everyone else. "Open skies" is mostly a political theater.

I don't trust Russia; I don't trust the "UMMA. But we have nothing to lose and perhaps something unexpected to gain with the semi-fiction of "transparency."

26 posted on 12/08/2014 9:46:23 AM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: Crazieman
I learned F You in Russian several years back. Maybe I should apply it to the roof of my house.

I have been searching for years for something similar, or preferably worse, in written Arabic, with no success.

All suggestions are welcome.

27 posted on 12/08/2014 9:49:57 AM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: Crazieman
I learned F You in Russian several years back. Maybe I should apply it to the roof of my house.

<Private Reply me. I have a large barn...

28 posted on 12/08/2014 9:53:51 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Crazieman

Never mind. I’d be at the extreme end of the range; assuming it’ll be a round-trip flight.


29 posted on 12/08/2014 9:54:47 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ScottinVA
This has been going on for many years. We do overflights of their territory as well.

I was certain of that too, and unconcerened, until I read the link at post #15 on this thread.

That changes everything. Under those circumstances, allowing the Soviet flight in the next 6 days would be a form of treason. Clearly.

I can't believe the Air Force or the Joint Chiefs allowing that.

WTF?

30 posted on 12/08/2014 9:57:56 AM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: publius911
I have been searching for years for something similar, or preferably worse, in written Arabic, with no success.

OH?



Pick one or more...


31 posted on 12/08/2014 9:58:29 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Netz

And then there’s the free market.

We could pass all the sanctions we want. It won’t hurt them like $60/BBL oil will over the next two years.

Putin will need a war to get the price back up. It’s what they did prior to their collapse.

Pure and simple - Russia is a petro-state. Same as Mexico, Qatar, Iran, or Saudi Arabia. If the US floods the market with cheap crude, it will bring at least 11 US adversaries to their knees.

Ironically, a smart President might use it to their advantage among allies dependent on foreign oil. China, for example.


32 posted on 12/08/2014 10:01:34 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: illiac

Is it illegal to shoot lasers at a Russian aircraft?
After all, the Russians blinded a US pilot shooting lasers at him in International airspace and nobody was ever punished.

Just asking.
They did it in US territorial waters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_Juan_de_Fuca_laser_incident

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/03/world/russian-lasers-reported-aimed-at-us-planes.html


33 posted on 12/08/2014 10:44:01 AM PST by Bon mots (Peace is the answer.)
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To: Elsie
Pick one or more...

I know it's the thought that counts, and I am grateful, but...

Sorry Elsie, I left my electron microscope in my other suit.
And from what I can see there, there is no Arabic text at all...

34 posted on 12/08/2014 10:44:46 AM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: Thunder90

~We should NOT be allowing this. Russia doesn’t allow us to do this over their soil.~

Bull.


35 posted on 12/08/2014 10:48:30 AM PST by wetphoenix
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