Posted on 12/07/2014 6:52:06 AM PST by Kaslin
A simple question to those who protest the grand juries in the police related deaths of Michael Brown and Eric Garner, "What do you really want?"
I have been watching--at first from afar--as the protestors in Ferguson, Missouri burned their town to the ground--and I have a hard time determining the message of the protests.
Here in New York we handle protests so routinely, the turnout pretty much muted any national interest because the marches went off without any major property damage or fatalities related to the protests. Yes 200 people have been arrested, but to be candid, that's a smidgeon compared to political conventions, Yankee championships, or hosting the Super Bowl.
It has been some of the satellite protests in places wholly unconnected to Ferguson or Staten Island that caused me to think this week, "Are they/we getting what society truly needs from the protests?"
If Denver, Colorado was any measure my answer would be definitively, "No!"
A large gathering of high school students rebelliously walked out of classes this past Thursday, and unlawfully gathered outside the school to stage a protest that we believe was in support of the protestors from Ferguson. As they marched the city marshaled police to the site so as to not lose control of the crowd--seeing as how it was mostly peopled by underaged kids.
When four of the first police roll up on their bicycles, a car lost control and struck the four officers. All went to the hospital, but one was so badly injured he required six hours of surgery and as of the writing of this piece is still not out of critical condition. After the car struck the officers, a chant rose up from within the protesting kids, "hit him, hit him again!" (Focused on what witnesses believed to be the worst injured officer.)
The problem with many of the protests is the degree to which much of what they protest for is based on false information.
Examples: Officer Wilson never shot Michael Brown in the back. Officer Pantaleo did not execute a chokehold. Michael Brown never raised his hands and said to the officer, "Don't shoot." Eric Garner did resist arrest and say, "This ends today!" Eric Garner posed no real threat to the five officers who jumped him to bring him to the ground. Michael Brown literally attempted to take the life of Officer Wilson. Michael Brown was seen by African American eye-witnesses to be in a crouched position ready to bum rush Officer Wilson. And the supervising officer in the Eric Garner take down was an African American woman.
Though many have tried to turn these two cases into a pattern. They are so radically different in fact that there is really very little similar between the two.
Michael Brown more or less brought about his own death. Eric Garner did nothing of the sort. All of this according to the physical evidence, eye-witness testimony, and video taped footage from the individual crime scenes.
The prosecutor's role in each case also demonstrated a significant difference. In Missouri the prosecutor revealed maximum transparency in releasing all of the grand jury evidence to the public upon announcing the grand jury's findings. The prosecutor in New York gave the jurors a poor choice of crimes to charge with, was slow to release the evidence, and asked only for the lawful minimum to be released.
As protestors have looted, burned, and thieved in Ferguson, or merely stopped traffic, delayed public access, and interrupted normal police work in New York, confusion about why they march, what they hope to accomplish, and what their message is or should be abounds.
Hence it becomes very easy to believe that the goals in play are, "we hate the police, and we want the police out of our lives."
When protestors begin chanting, "Hit him, Hit him again" over the body of an officer that needs immediate care--in a city wholly disconnected to either of the events in question it would be prudent to ask what message is being understood.
In reality Eric Garner's tragedy is the true miscarriage of justice, that some self-appointed "civil-rights" agitators attempted to tell us that Michael Brown's case was.
But facts in all of the dialogue on these matters has been clouded intentionally by outside forces attempting to try to further limit lawful law enforcement from doing their jobs.
And that stopped me in my tracks this week when this question came to mind, "Do we really want law enforcement to feel further incapable of responding to unlawful activity in the toughest, most needed neighborhoods in America?"
Isn't the most unloving thing we could do to those most in need of justice, is to remove the elements that help justice be established--beginning with protecting the innocent of every block?
This week New York area mega-church pastor Dr. AR Bernard appeared with me to discuss all of this, and his simple observation was that the kids of any given community don't know the police who are securing their communities, and that perhaps old fashioned beat cops, building relationships with neighborhood kids would go a long way to preventing escalation in what tend to be seen as unnecessary escalation moments.
I think he's on to something.
If the protests could accomplish anything, my hope would be that it would bring people together. We need tighter knit communities. And it is increasingly difficult to pre-judge and hold bias against people you spend time and sometimes lifetimes getting to know.
Whatever the ideas, I don't think the solution to any of it lies in a cop being injured and then stood over in Denver with children of every race chanting, "Hit him, hit him again!"
Good to know the author was present at both incidents to offer an airtight, who-can-argue-with-this eyewitness account.
It would be a service to the country.
Seems to me that they want automatic indictments (Guilty until proven innocent) and they want trial by mob.
We've taken the bait. While we are arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, Baraq Husseing Ogruber and his fellow Communists are destroying this country.
Racist white cop on unarmed black saint violence pales in comparison to illegal alien on hard working American violence.
But the Men Seeking Men media knows the latter would be more damaging to Baraq Obola than the former.
There are only two possible answers:
A) They don't know. They are simply engaging in mob mentality.
B) They want an even more comfy lifestyle with even fewer restrictions or expectations on their responsibilities as citizens.
The solution for police is simple. Stop policing majority black neighborhoods but have a clear line where policing starts. Things will kind of work themselves out after a while.
I still don’t think the officers arresting Garner did anything wrong. He was resisting, they used no weapons, they just put him on the ground. His asthma and heart condition did the rest. And the black cop whose immunity was granted in return for her testimony, well, obviously her testimony helped contribute to the decision not to indict, so... I feel like a lot of folks are “willing to give them Garner” as an appeasement tactic. “Okay, look, Travyon was a bad guy, Michael Brown was a bad guy, but we’ll give you Garner because we don’t dare say every last one of these jerk-offs you’re celebrating made their own grave.”
I agree with your post
The mainstream media is now trying to incite crimes against white people. the media do this by repeatedly showing white cops killing blacks so many times as if that were the only thing happening in a world of 7 billion people.
what happened to the “ebola is a threat” massive media coverage? it’s gone because the election is over. all that ebola coverage the media did was just purposeful propaganda to distract us from Obama’s failed policies during the election. all of you even on this forum fell for the “ebola is a threat to the USA” lie hook , line and sinker. shows that people have no idea what the media is and what the media is doing to us.
now it’s all this media bs that keeps showing white cops killing blacks : that will just lead to incite some blacks to kill white people as has already happened . the media has blood on its hands. this is not news but propaganda. hundreds of blacks get murdered by other blacks everyday but that is not news but this is our of a trillion to the trillionth power events every day in the world the media goes on about brown, garner , ferguson. when will we protest and boycott the media which is the enemy and the problem?
the media creates the false reality we all live in. break out of the matrix
What they want:
1. Every time a black life is taken by a white, (no matter how justified,) a white must die in exchange. (Wilson for Michael Brown, for instance.)
2. They want a law passed that no white person is ever allowed to defend themselves against a black.
That’s it, that’s what they want, whether they admit it or not.
Ape shall not kill ape.
The protestors (all) appear to hate any white mans law and want jungle law take what you want when you want and from anybody you want.
It’s not about a dead black it’s about no law they refused to agree with the courts they have vasts amount of hate fueled by Obama and Holder and other race baiters.
When they reprint a lie or refuse tho run a story they can be taken to task for acting like the major urban propaganda news outlets.
When they do a good job of covering something in an unbiased fashion they can be congratulated for NOT acting like the major propaganda outlets.
We need to find a strategy and hammer it home day in and day out. When we don't the result is our complacency allows the media to create false narratives like "the war on women", or "democrats are for the little guy".
Personally, I thank God Ebola hasn’t turned out to be the threat many of us feared. I would say luck had more to do with it than anything else. Just how much longer will luck be so kind?
“.... want jungle law take what you want when you want and from anybody you want”
The people promoting jungle law, think it so great- until they become the victim..
Then call the police, then blame the police when the outcome is not what they expected.
Rinse and repeat
>> The problem with many of the protests is the degree to which much of what they protest for is based on false information.
Almost... The problem is the willingness to embraces any popular meme en masse regardless of authenticity.
Thankfully, conservatives don’t do this type of thing.
Agree they seem to enjoy confusion must be the price of being a fish that takes the bait.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3237587/posts
I broke away from the liberal news media chains , i ignore the “news” as much as i can and then i know ALL Of it is lies or to distract us from what is really happening and from us being successful to keep us small , terrified , under control to help advance socialism (that is the media's mission)
we all could save so much precious time if we didn't worry about what the media wanted us to
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