You disagree and then agree in the same post.
We read of obese people dying during small time routine arrests because of police incompetence and impatience, and you seem to recognize that.
No. You misunderstand me. I did not disagree and agree in the same post. The cops did not kill him. He did not even die at the scene. He died of cardiac arrest in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. This is a tragedy all the way around.
I used to weigh what he did. I no longer do. I know what it is like to be that heavy. I had a 54 inch waist and had gotten up to 360 pounds because of a side-effect of some medication I was taking. When I was that heavy, I never wanted to be on my big belly because of the consequences to my ability to breathe. The few times I found my self prone, it was NOT pretty. I stopped taking that medication (Thank God) and started shedding pounds like crazy and am now blessed with a 40" waist and trip the scales a little over 210. I can now lie on my stomach with impunity once more. YAY!
What happened here is a tragedy of stupidity on the part of the liberal's law about cigarettes (Liberals think that they can pass ridiculous taxes such as these with impunity and no consequences and no side-effects), stupidity on the part of the victim for being non-cooperative and combative (he knew what he had been doing, should have shrugged his shoulders, taken his lumps, paid the fine, and gone about his business), ignorance on the part of the police about what happens to heavy people on their stomachs, incompetence on the part of the police department in not training on what to do AFTER they taken down someone of that girth due to lack of training about that situation, but there was no criminality or negligence on the part of the officer doing his job. Ergo, he did not kill the victim.
Yes, there were somethings they could have done better. . . but they were NOT trained in what to do. And not ever having been 350 plus pounds, they did not have the experiential knowledge of what being forced to lay on a gut that large unable to move was doing to him.
Essentially, lying on his stomach was pushing the fat of his belly up into him, compressing his diaphragm into his lungs, limiting its motion, thereby suppressing his ability to exhale, combined with his tendency to asthma closing down his bronchial passages limiting his airway even more, thus building up a load of CO2, which with his underlying diabetes, leads to anoxia, then hypoxia, and then asphyxia, all of which is putting an extreme load on his heart, resulting to the infarction. Once he was on that downward spiral, it was unlikely that even the EMTs could stop it and save him. On of the doctors in my office outlined this for me the other day. Had they known, what could they have done early on to prevent this spiral of events? Moved him onto his side. Much easier for someone of his size to breathe lying on the side.
It was a concatenation of events that killed this man. Everyone involved killed this man. . . the least culpable persons were the EMTs and the cops. Even the witnesses were more culpable than the cops for VOTING for the Liberals who passed the cigarette taxes in the first place. The most culpable was the victim for not cooperating with the cops. In the long run, a very stupid Liberal Nanny Cigarette Tax Law killed this man.