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Jeb Bush: Republicans Don't Need Conservatives to Win White House, Should Not Defund Exec Amnesty
Breitbart ^ | Dec. 2, 2014 | Tony Lee

Posted on 12/02/2014 4:13:39 PM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: Robert DeLong
I work hard in lots of elections, so yeah, 2 years is an eternity when there are hundreds of candidates and offices.

Not letting liberal republicans win is going to save America.

Your plan of voting for liberal republicans not only doesn't get the liberal republican elected, it doesn't save America.

/johnny

181 posted on 12/04/2014 8:47:12 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: CodeToad
Romney was never a Democrat. He was a registered voter who chose no party affiliation. When he voted for a Democrat in a primary they (the board of elections) automatically affiliated him as a Democrat. His wife made that statement, but that mainly was because Mitt wasn't really a politician at the time and thus didn't really have any relationships with politicians of either party. Mitt obviously knew his father who was a lifelong Republican. Romney claims that he voted in Democratic primaries to select the weakest Democratic candidate for the betterment of the Republican candidate. I know I few people myself that do the very same thing. He claims he never voted for a Democrat in the general elections. Mitt has never run as a Democrat, only as a Republican. Your claim that he was a Democrat his entire career is just factually untrue.

As for what he would or wouldn't have done regarding ObamaCare, amnesty, pacifism in the world, high budgets, etc., we will never know because he wasn't elected. I am not a soothsayer who can predict what Mitt would or wouldn't have done. What I did know is that Obama was not only terrible for the country, he was dangerous to the country. My vote was cast to remove Obama from power.

If Romney had supported the things you claim he would have, I believe he would have backed off and gone with what the citizens wanted. Just as he did with RomneyCare in Mass. That was what the people wanted. OF course what was passed and what was actually created by the Democrat controlled State Legislature were not exactly the same. But at least he gave the citizens what they said they wanted. He would not have acted on his own like Obama has done numerous times. He would have been in a position to appoint more conservative, or at least far less liberal, judges to the Supreme Court. Lastly I felt he would have adhered to the Constitution, whereas Obama has ignored it on numerous occasions.

I still stand by my belief that Romney would have been better for America than Obama. Was I dumb enough to thin he was the perfect person to lead this country in the direction I would like to see it turn towards? No, but it would have resulted in a better direction that Obama, and his cronies, have taken this country.

182 posted on 12/04/2014 9:35:39 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Your plan of voting for liberal republicans not only doesn't get the liberal republican elected, it doesn't save America.

Apparently neither your plan nor my plan is saving America. But I can almost guarantee my plan came closer to succeeding than did yours. Who knows, if the fraud & corruption were removed the 2012 election, my plan may have succeeded.

I wasn't talking about any election other than the Presidential election. Does that help you recall who you voted for? Who was conservative enough to garner your support & vote? If you chose not to tell me that's fine, and I will cease asking. I just find it curious that you won't tell me. More importantly though, I would like to look into this person. If he seems like the real deal I will try and convince him to run on the Republican ticket. By sending out his name to all of my friends, who in turn will send his name to their friends, and so on. While I am not connected to the Republican Party other than affiliation, I do know some people that are connected, and they are conservative. The Republicans needs a good conservative on their ticket. But we have to start now to build name recognition and momentum for 2016.

Posting on here is a lot of fun, but it is like a sandbox in reality. Someone throws sand in a person's face and that person throws the sand back. I also find it to be therapeutic as well, because it gives people the opportunity to vent their frustrations. But more importantly it allows us to talk to like minded individuals to come together and hammer out a plan that actual succeeds. That success will not come over night, and it will not be accomplished in a single election.

183 posted on 12/04/2014 10:18:44 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong

None of that matters: Romney is for amnesty and socialized medicine.


184 posted on 12/04/2014 10:21:54 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Robert DeLong

“I still stand by my belief that Romney would have been better for America than Obama.”

I agree...insomuch as it’s better to get shot with a .22 short rather than a 6K lb. JDAM.


185 posted on 12/04/2014 10:46:50 AM PST by Obstinate (Pack the Constitution & build Mayflower II; this place is toast. Going Galt? Going Constitutional.)
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To: Robert DeLong
I've just recently started my plan of politically destroying liberal republicans. We'll see in a few election cycles if it has the desired effect of keeping the liberal bastards from running.

The 'hold your nose and vote republican' thing is very, very old. It doesn't work.

/johnny

186 posted on 12/04/2014 10:53:19 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The 'hold your nose and vote republican' thing is very, very old. It doesn't work

You got my plan wrong, the plan is to elect the best of the viable candidates. While it does force me to lower my expectations, it involves no nose holding.

How exactly are you executing your plan of politically destroying liberal republicans? Mark Levin has been doing that for years, and he has a very large audience. If I had to venture a guess, he probably voted for Mitt Romney too, to remove Obama from office. Not because he liked Mitt or even entertained the notion that he is conservative. Just that it affords more time. With time there are still possibilities.

Unfortunately we are running out of election cycles, if we haven't run out already. May sound like I am being overly dramatic to some, but I am convinced that we are closer to the point of no return than most people seem to think we are. I pray I'm not correct but rather being overly dramatic. Nothing would make me happier. Perhaps I am just too much of a pessimist.

187 posted on 12/04/2014 12:17:07 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong
Having taken 6 years to get Dewhurst (liberal republican) fired and sent back to his ranch, I'm willing to work the task, and wait.

I did not vote for Romney. He was NOT a viable candidate. Obviously, since he didn't get elected except that 1 time as governor.

/johnny

188 posted on 12/04/2014 12:19:23 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Robert DeLong
You voting for Romney didn't save the Republic. It didn't keep Obama out of office. It just resulted in you voting for a liberal.

/johnny

189 posted on 12/04/2014 12:20:31 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Viable means a higher probability. Had it not been for fraud and corruption perpetrated by the Democrats, he may have indeed won. Of course if conservative votes had not been syphoned off by unviable candidates it would have been closer still. But I think the fraud and corruption was so pervasive that even that would not have cemented a victory.

Congratulations as far as Dewhurst goes, but the 4% of registered voters turnout played the bigger role in that defeat. Not being my Lieutenant Governor, I'm from Louisiana, I know nothing about him. However, I was glad that Ted Cruz beat him for the U.S. Senate.

Some interesting facts regarding his Dewhurst's replacement, Dan Goeb Patrick:

He was born with the name Dannie Scott Goeb. His name change was the result of his broadcasting career

Most in the industry do change their name.

In January 1986, Patrick attempted suicide by taking an overdose of Imipramine, an anti-depressant, and attempting to slash his right wrist. He was subsequently admitted to Spring Shadows Glen, a Houston psychiatric hospital, for severe depression.

I'm sorry to hear that whatever was troubling him so bad that he made that decision, but I understand how depression can cause that. Since that was the year that 5 area sports bars that he was a co-owner of failed, my guess is that was the trigger of his depression. Glad he failed in his attempt to commit suicide.

Patrick opposes abortion and supported Texas's "Mandatory Ultrasound Bill", a bill signed into law in May 2011 by Governor Perry, which requires women seeking abortion to have a sonogram of the fetus taken at least twenty-four hours before the abortion is performed.

Dan Patrick opposes abortion in cases of incest and rape. In January of 2014, when he was asked about exceptions to outlawing abortion, Patrick said, “The only exception would be if the life of the mother was truly in danger…but that is rare.

I applaud that for sure.

Patrick supports increasing the number of charter schools in the state of Texas.

Certainly agree with him there as most public schools are worthless.

Patrick is on record as determined to establish creationism into the public school curriculum in Texas, despite court rulings that such a policy would violate the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Patrick identifies the experience of his personal bankruptcy as having shaped his conservatism in fiscal policy. He took a negative and turned it into a positive, which is always good.

Questions later arose during the 2014 lieutenant governor's race about the immigration status of one of Patrick's employees, Miguel "Mike" Andrade. Patrick and Andrade offered different recollections about Andrade's employment. The matter was raised by one of Patrick's opponents, Jerry Patterson, who questioned Patrick's declared commitment to halt illegal immigration.

Patrick opposes illegal immigration, has expressed support for Arizona’s SB 1070 immigration enforcement law, and supports passing a similar law in Texas that would allow local law enforcement to ask lawfully-stopped individuals about their immigration status and would make it a state misdemeanor to be present in Texas as an illegal immigrant.

I guess we will see if he is really as against illegal immigration as he says he is. I do notice though he wants to charge them with a misdemeanor. Really? That doesn't sound too strong to me. Deportation is the correct course of action.

He endorsed Rick Perry for re-election in the 2010 election.

Wasn't Rick Perry one of those Republican liberals in your list from an earlier response?

He is a Republican I notice, so is he less of a liberal than Dewhurst? I guess time will tell if you have practiced what I have been peaching or you got the conservative you thought you were getting.

190 posted on 12/04/2014 2:36:41 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: EternalVigilance

Its funny isn’t it.....1999-2000.....very very negative here over Bush....you could say anything

Post 9-11-01

Scores if not hundreds zotted or exiled for serious complaints about Bush

Now.....its open season again

This should be a conservative forum....glad we’ve gotten back to that

We were right.


191 posted on 12/05/2014 12:12:03 AM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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To: wardaddy

Yup.


192 posted on 12/05/2014 5:11:44 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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