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Mark Levin to Speak at American Legislative Exchange Council
PR Newswire ^ | 12/2/2014 | Tamara Colbert

Posted on 12/02/2014 12:42:23 PM PST by bkopto

Mark Levin will address why Article V is the way to reclaim self-governance in America at the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) meeting in Washington, D.C. on December 4, 2014. Sponsored by the Convention of States (COS) Project, Levin -- a Constitutional expert and nationally syndicated talk show host -- will speak at a special breakfast keynote plenary session,

"No one understands the necessity and efficacy of Article V more than Mark Levin," said Mark Meckler, President of Citizens for Self-Governance and co-founder of the Convention of States Project. In fact, Levin is an endorser of COS's Jefferson Statement, explaining why the Convention of States project is so necessary at this time, and sits on COS's Legal Board of Reference. "We appreciate Mark's support and his powerful voice in the media, and look forward to hearing what he has to say about how ordinary citizens can reclaim our nation from our overreaching, inept federal government."

Immediately following Levin's speech, the COS Project will host a Convention of States workshop with panelists including: Professor Rob Natelson, Professor Randy E. Barnett, Michael Farris and Mark Meckler. The breakfast plenary session will be held from 8:00 a.m. to 9:15 a.m. EST.; the Convention of States Project Policy Workshop is scheduled for 9:30 a.m. to 10:45 a.m. EST. Properly credentialed media are welcomed to cover these events.

COS encourages citizens to call a Convention of States to return the country to its original vision of a limited federal government that is of, by and for the people. COS has enabled three Article V applications to pass (in Alaska, Florida and Georgia) and has organized leadership in 43 states around the country. For more information visit www.ConventionofStates.com .

ALEC aims to provide a constructive, non-partisan forum for state legislators and private sector leaders to discuss public policy issues which focus on free markets, limited government and constitutional division of powers between the federal and state governments. The organization includes more than 2,000 Republican and Democratic state legislators


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To: Jacquerie

I’m just quoting the conventionofstates.com website.
I’m otherwise ignorant of this subject.

http://www.conventionofstates.com/how_do_the_state_legislatures_call_a_convention_of_states

How Do the State Legislatures Call a Convention of States?
Answer:
Thirty-four state legislatures must pass a bill called an “application” calling for a convention of states. The applications must request a Convention of the States for the same subject matter. The applications are delivered to Congress.


21 posted on 12/02/2014 2:18:28 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: bkopto

What was an academic daydream six months ago is rapidly crystallizing into a movement with a chance of success.


22 posted on 12/02/2014 2:31:27 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Suhweeeet!


23 posted on 12/02/2014 2:35:34 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: bkopto
Okay, I apologize for the tone of my comment.

You may find this pdf informative:

"Lawful and Peaceful Revolution: Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention for Proposing Amendment," from the Hamline Law Review.

24 posted on 12/02/2014 2:36:49 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: Jacquerie

No offense was taken. I’ll read your reference later. Thanks.


25 posted on 12/02/2014 2:41:22 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: Jacquerie
Although Congress has never officially legislated either the Single Subject Standard or the Contemporaneousness Standard into law, both standards are observed by Congress and the federal courts due to their genesis in contract law. The 1973 ABA Document recommended that Congress put these two standards into writing to avoid mischief in the future.

Under longstanding principles of contract law, when it comes to an Amendments Convention, the states are the Principals, the convention is the Agent, and the language of the petitions to Congress from the states constitutes the Agency Agreement. An Agent is bound by his Principal to his Agency Agreement and cannot go outside it. Responsibility flows downhill in this schema.

This is why the assertion that Congress should have called an Amendments Convention in the 1890's is not consistent with normal jurisprudence. The fact that two-thirds of the states requested a convention for a variety of subjects dating back to 1789 is irrelevant, and so is the further assertion that all Amendments Conventions are general conventions open to all subjects. The states may request a general convention, and if they do, the Agency Agreement stated in the convention call will specify a general convention. This goes back to the "interstate conventions" called under the Articles of Confederation, of which some were single subject and some were open to all subjects. But if the states request a single subject convention, that language will be extracted by Congress from the state petitions and inserted into the convention call as the Agency Agreement. The convention call's job is to name a time, place and subject matter.

The ABA Document came up with a clever suggestion to protect the states from a recalcitrant Congress. It suggested that when a state sends a petition for a convention to Congress, it names the states that have also submitted similar petitions. This is to make sure that Congress tabulates the petition in the correct column, rather than saying that a word or bit of punctuation requires tabulation in a separate column. Because Georgia has petitioned with some good comprehensive language, other states should use that language, and upon sending it to the Archivist for safekeeping and tabulation, the petition should state plainly that it should be tabulated in the same column as Georgia. This would put Congress on the spot.

In other threads, I've gone into detail about the 1967 debate in the Senate about whether Congress could find a legal way to defy the states and refuse to call an Amendments Convention once the threshold has been reached. I would refer to what happened in 1992 when the 27th Amendment, proposed by Madison in 1789, crossed the three-fourths threshold.

The Archivist, under current law, sends a memorandum to Congress when an applicable threshold is reached. Until then he is under no obligation to warn Congress that something is brewing. When Madison's Salary Grab Amendment hit 38 ratifications in 1992, the Archivist blindsided Congress with his memorandum. Congressional leadership sent a letter to the Archivist demanding that he rescind his memorandum because the older ratifications were "stale" and had to be done over. The Archivist sent a brilliant letter back to Congress quoting every applicable Supreme Court decision and tossed it right back in Congress' lap. There was brief consideration of having Congress sue the Archivist in federal court to get a decision more amenable to Congress, but because 1992 was an election year, the congressional power brokers decided that the optics of Congress openly defying the Constitution's amendatory process would make a bad electoral situation worse. Congress swallowed hard and accepted the 27th Amendment into the Constitution by the usual parliamentary method of a Joint Congressional Resolution.

The key here is "optics". While one can discuss various scenarios about Congress potentially defying the will of the states, I don't see it happening. Once the Archivist sends his memorandum to Congress, I fully expect Congress to swallow hard and generate a convention call in a Joint Congressional Resolution naming time, place and subject matter extracted from the petitions.

What I do expect Congress to do is expand the Supreme Court's 1921 Dillon decision and 1939 Coleman decision in an attempt to regulate an Amendments Convention according to the suggestions of 1973 ABA Document. As Levin has pointed out, an Amendments Convention is the property of the states, and my personal belief is that Congress has no business inserting its nose into the process other than executing its solemn constitutional duty of issuing a convention call. But there are enough gray areas in the amendatory process, eloquently defined in the ABA Document, that I would expect Congress to butt in and the federal courts to rule on it.

26 posted on 12/02/2014 2:42:17 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius
But there are enough gray areas in the amendatory process, eloquently defined in the ABA Document, that I would expect Congress to butt in and the federal courts to rule on it.

Well ain't that a surprise. And who, on the people's side, would have any confidence in this process, given that the courts are rife with progressive judges. Congress won't go after the lawless Obama but would go after the people and the states? Such is the stuff of revolutions.

27 posted on 12/02/2014 3:25:21 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: bkopto
In the end, I expect a 5-4 Supreme Court decision upholding the legal principle that an Amendments Convention is the property of the states, and that Congress cannot use the narrow Dillon and Coleman decisions to poach upon the states' domain.
28 posted on 12/02/2014 4:48:40 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

Thank you for your insights and opinions! We should hope and pray that the Supreme Court remains with at least 5 conservative justices.


29 posted on 12/02/2014 5:49:39 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: Publius

Thank you for your insights and opinions! We should hope and pray that the Supreme Court remains with at least 5 conservative justices.


30 posted on 12/02/2014 5:49:39 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: jdsteel
"I love Mark’s show, but I think an easier, less risky approach is to reign in the definition of “interstate trade”. That would lop off the long arm of Washington in a hurry."

Agree.

Repeal the 17th and strike the commerce clause completely. Early in our history the commerce clause may have been beneficial but today it's only use is to expand the reach of government. There is nothing about interstate commerce that we need the feds to regulate. The states and the free market will take care of that just fine.

31 posted on 12/03/2014 6:47:11 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: bkopto
"Such is the stuff of revolutions."

You are correct. Which is why I believe it won't happen. Once the threshold is reached, the pressure on Congress will be great.

32 posted on 12/04/2014 7:20:29 AM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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