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Homeless Woman's Stun Gun Spurs 2nd Amendment Case
ABC News ^ | 11/28/2014 | DENISE LAVOIE

Posted on 11/28/2014 4:27:47 PM PST by Mean Daddy

Jaime Caetano was beaten so badly by her ex-boyfriend that she ended up in the hospital. So when a friend offered her a stun gun to protect herself, she took it.

Caetano, who is homeless, never had to use it but now finds herself at the center of a contentious Second Amendment case headed to the highest court in Massachusetts.

The Supreme Judicial Court is being asked to decide whether a state law that prohibits private citizens from possessing stun guns infringes on their right to keep and bear arms. In an unusual twist, the court is also being asked to examine whether the Second Amendment right to defend yourself in your own home applies in the case of a homeless person.

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To: Mean Daddy

Does the First Amendment only apply in your own home too?


21 posted on 11/28/2014 5:11:51 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Sirius Lee

yes, only in your own home is not there.

people wore their arms with them, at home, or when travelling, when that amendment was written. i think that clearly provides proper context. the right to self defense follows wherever the self is at the moment.


22 posted on 11/28/2014 5:33:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: GeronL

if it didn’t we would not be able to transport arms anywhere, or defend ourselves if we were attacked outside our home.


23 posted on 11/28/2014 5:34:36 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Mean Daddy

i think we just have to be clear that anytime this shit occurs, we must point out every time, repeatedly, only statists like socialists would adopt such a view, b/c our founders sure didn’t. the amendments were to secure personal liberites, not restrict them. socialists read laws and constitutions looking to restrict citizens rights. the founders created the costitution and the bill of rights to prevent government taking away citizens’ rights.

every case we argue in front of scotus should point out this fact at the very start.


24 posted on 11/28/2014 5:37:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Mean Daddy

Not a chance she will win if the court is staffed with “Hav..ahd” law school intellectual whores.


25 posted on 11/28/2014 5:43:43 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Put lipstick on a Communist and call it a Progressive, but it's still a Communist with lipstick.)
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To: grobdriver
It's right there behind the one that says a citizen may only own weapons that are "commonly" used by "militias".

Actually, if the courts interpreted the Second Amendment as only covering weapons commonly used by militias, we'd all be able to own full-automatic rifles, grenade launchers, mortars, and ammunition for the same and a whole lot of other heavier weapons than current law allows, to say nothing of the laws covering "destructive devices" (IEDs) being voided. (Consider what militias in the Middle East are armed with.)

26 posted on 11/28/2014 5:54:39 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Mean Daddy

Dems: The homeless should not be able to defend themselves.


27 posted on 11/28/2014 6:00:59 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Compared to obama, Jimmy Carter looks like Winston Churchill.)
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To: Mean Daddy

“Caetano, who is homeless, never had to use it but now finds herself at the center of a contentious Second Amendment case headed to the highest court in Massachusetts.”

Our Founders dragged Tory judges into the street, stripped them naked and tarred and feathered them.


28 posted on 11/28/2014 6:19:26 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Mean Daddy

2A intent would allow for the existance of a 322nd A-10 Tankbuster Oathkeeper Airwing.


29 posted on 11/28/2014 6:23:23 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: RetiredTexasVet

it will be interesting to watch “progressive” judges argue that homeless people do not have Constitutional rights.


30 posted on 11/28/2014 6:31:06 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: TigersEye

But, is she her own property. Or is her life, her liberty and her pursuit of happiness her own property? But really, isn’t that stun gun her property even if she can’t plug it in?


31 posted on 11/28/2014 7:03:00 PM PST by Citizen Zed ("Freedom costs a buck o five" - Gary Johnston, TAWP)
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To: Mean Daddy

This is a shockingly stupid legal question that no one should need to ask, so it’s no surprise that Massachusetts is on the wrong side of the issue. The right of the people to keep and bear arms “shall not be infringed”. That means it’s not limited to home owners. It’s not limited to hunting. It’s not limited to military weapons. It includes stun guns for the homeless. Our God-given right to defend ourselves is an absolute.


32 posted on 11/28/2014 7:07:31 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Mean Daddy
In CA the right to carry a firearm on your private property in any way you like also covers a camp site or a similar "temporary home."
33 posted on 11/28/2014 7:20:27 PM PST by Greysard
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To: TigersEye

A homeless woman needs to armed more then anyone.


34 posted on 11/28/2014 7:40:29 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Yes, probably so.


35 posted on 11/28/2014 7:44:35 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: TigersEye

And, can you vote if you don’t own property?

Property owners are often subjected to tax increases voted by rent-paying non-owners.


36 posted on 11/28/2014 7:50:41 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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To: Mean Daddy

Obviously a homeless person has a right to defend themselves.


37 posted on 11/28/2014 7:52:17 PM PST by jocon307
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To: MileHi
My home is where I lay my hat.

I used to tell folks that I lived wherever I happened to be at the moment. Home was a place I went to when I was done living out in the public arena for the day.

38 posted on 11/29/2014 4:28:51 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Mean Daddy

A stun gun is not a firearm.

I have one I carry with me when I go walking, for dogs. These dogs dont scare me as far as biting me, but I am afraid one might get run over by trying to follow me so when they come to the road, I turn my stun gun on and crack the trigger. It makes a cracking electrical sound that scares them back to the house.


39 posted on 11/29/2014 5:09:25 AM PST by weezel
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To: Sirius Lee

Great tag line!


40 posted on 11/29/2014 3:26:34 PM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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