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America, You’ve Been Grubered!
Townhall.com ^ | November 24, 2014 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 11/24/2014 3:28:27 AM PST by Kaslin

The most important effect of the revelations of the Administration’s flunkies’ history of cheesy lies about Obamacare is that liberals must now answer one threshold question before discussing the substance of any new socialist scheme:

Why should we trust anything liberals say about anything?

Grubergate is just one of the score of scandals, frauds, and failures that have destroyed any trust in this collection of creeps by anyone except the most leftist and the most stupid, two sets which, if graphed in a Venn diagram, would be represented by a single circle.

IRS oppression. Executive amnesty. VA death lists. The Benghazi filmmaker frenzy. You’d think that statistically this Administration would have to act honestly and/or competently sometime. Instead, Obama’s managed to create the political equivalent of a broken clock that’s never right.

The liberals are fuming, infuriated that Jonathan Gruber let the cat out of the bag. Then let out another. And another. In fact, he dumped out a whole bag of cats as new media detectives released fresh clips daily depicting his smarmy confessions that he thinks the people who fell for Obamacare are drooling idiots. No, don’t look at us conservatives – we saw through this crypto-fascist scheme from Day One. Your boy Gruber is just telling it like it is – when liberals aren’t liars, they’re morons.

Like the hip kids say, hate the game, not the single payer.

What to do? With apologies to Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, the liberals in the media, which is to say “the media,” ran through the first four of the five stages of grief in record time.

Stage One – Denial: “Gruber who? Never heard of the guy I said was key to the whole Obamacare idea. And I never heard of Obamacare either. Look, a squirrel!”

Stage Two – Anger: “This is an outrage, citing the statements of a guy we spent years touting as an expert on Obamacare who says it was all a giant scam! You are the worst human being since that inhuman monster who wore a whimsical shirt to a comet landing!”

Stage Three – Bargaining: “Well, uh, Mitt Romney hired him too so it’s not so bad. Wait, what? You say that for conservatives, defending Mitt Romney over Romneycare is not a thing?”

Stage Four – Depression: “How can we ever hope to trick – I mean ‘convince’ – the American people to trust us enough about made-up crises to ever again transfer massive amounts of money and power to us liberals and the institutions we control?”

How indeed. The liberals will probably never reach Stage Five (Acceptance), and they face the huge hurdle the next time they gin up some bogus problem that demands a solution that – here’s the shocker – requires they be given more money and power. That hurdle is the fact that we conservatives are never going to let anyone forget how they Grubered America.

The climate change scam? They’ll Gruber at us that it’s the worst thing that’s ever happened, even worse than the ice age they were predicting back in the 70s if we didn’t – wait for it – give liberals more money and power.

The midterm election was a big blow to the fading cash and freedom-devouring climate change scam. The fact that global warming does not seem to involve any warming was already presenting a problem for the slobbering fetishists of the climate panic. Now, every time they start saying, “Trust us. I know how a year ago I said that by now the oceans would be dried up, but they’ll totally be gone next summer – really,” people will respond, “Don’t Gruber me, bro.”

It’s kind of hard to build up a lot of trust for your next big idea when you excuse lying about your last big idea because it was so darn important: “Oh yeah, deceiving you about health care was cool because health care is a big deal. Sure, climate change could mean the end of the world, but on that one, well, absolute honesty. This whole green energy thing totally won’t cost you more for electricity, limit your freedom, or enrich our liberal billionaire donors. Cross my heart. Now excuse me, I gotta catch a chartered jet to Gstaad for a conference on the importance of taking away your cars.”

Similarly, those pushing “net neutrality” – that is, allowing the government new and unprecedented power to regulate the web – have to contend with the annoying threshold question of why any sane person would ever allow this Administration to dig its claws into that final bastion of unregulated freedom. The responses liberals have to our refusal to trust them with more power over the online world are quite illustrative of exactly why we should refuse to trust them with more power over the online world. For example, sometimes they call us stupid for not trusting the same people who Gruber demonstrated think we are stupid. As a lawyer, I have to assess the notion that I’m stupid for not wanting to empower people who think I’m stupid as an unconvincing argument.

They also call us crazy, as if it’s nuts not to trust an Administration that Grubered us on its last big project. In fact, it’s the opposite of crazy – it’s ancient wisdom. That ancient wisdom is today distilled in the jury instructions given in our courts, like this snippet from California Civil Jury Instruction (CACI) 107: “However, if you decide that a witness has deliberately testified untruthfully about something important, you may choose not to believe anything that witness said.” In other words, as legendary Roman lawyer Cicero probably said, liars gonna lie.

You truly can’t fool all of the people all of the time, and thanks to Gruber, the time of trusting liberals is drawing to a close. This is wonderful. Look, we conservatives always knew these clowns were pushing Marxy snake oil on a gullible electorate. Now, the truth is impossible to hide. It’s right there on video, and it’s Gruberiffic.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 0mamacare; healthcare; jonathangruber
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1 posted on 11/24/2014 3:28:28 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Not to be confused with the one that actually did not harm to the US...


2 posted on 11/24/2014 3:35:10 AM PST by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: BCW

3 posted on 11/24/2014 3:44:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: All

This POS govt fraudster isn't off the hook until WE'RE FRICKIN' READY.

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LET'S CONNECT THE DOTS---The salient point is this: Gruber acting as an independent researcher is one thing--- but Gruber consorting w/ many people in govt figuring out ways to lie in order to dupe the tax-paying public is a CONSPIRACY.

POINTS TO PONDER:

<><> (1) WH sign-in sheets show Gruber went there at least nineteen times.

<><>(2) Gruber, himself, talked about Obama being in the room when the Cadillac tax was invented.

<><> (3) Based on his Obamacare experiences, Gruber took tax dollars from several states to set up Obamacare exchanges....and earned millions of dollars doing so.

<><>(4) Nancy Pelosi is caught on-tape citing Gruber as a reliable source.

<><> (5) Gruber was there when Hillarycare was developed.

<><>(6) Another Gruber confession involved a conspiracy w/ Teddy Kennedy--- outright govt fraud by manipulating Medicare for some $500 million to secretly finance Romneycare.

<><>(7) A former adviser to then-HHS Secy Kathleen Sebelius told the NYT Gruber was on-board whie the govt was formulating the plan.

<><> (8) According BarackObama.com 2012, President Obama's official website, Jon Gruber "helped write Obamacare....w/ specific quotes from Obama tying Mitt Romney to ObamaCare...saying that "RomneyCare" was the model for Obamacare.

<><> (9) The Congressional Budget Office Effectively Used Gruber’s Model to Score Obamacare.

<><> (10) Harry Reid in the well of the US senate called Gruber "the most trusted economist in the world."

In sum, the makings of a conpiracy are well-documented---Gruber had influence over the CBO, the White House, and Congress alike. It's hard to overestimate his importance; Gruber's role was central to the efforts of President Obama and his Democratic allies to shove Obamacare down an unwilling citizenry’s throat.

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I'M SURE VALERIE KNOWS (/SNIX)---Grubama is downplaying Gruber's role, claiming he had no part in passing healthcare.But if Gruber was NOT the Obamacare architect---then Gruber took money under false pretenses and should be prosecuted for govt fraud. He took tax dollars from the feds and state govts "posing" as an expert.

TAXPAYERS DEMAND CONGRESS GET ANSWERS WRT GRUBER'S CASHING-IN ON THE BACKS OF "STUPID" TAXPAYERS

Four U.S. states and the federal government (read taxpayers) have padded Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber's wallet to the tune of $5.9 million since 2000, including millions connected to his work on the Affordable Care Act.

We need investigations---to see how our tax dollars changed hands---and landed into Gruber's pockets. The disdainful, preening Gruber was paid tax dollars to spin his web of lies...and to reiterate his contempt for taxpayers who are footing the bills.

Even more disturbing is the massive, multi-billion-dollar slush fund the self-serving Gruber hid from "stupid" Americans in Obamacare. Gruber made dam sure it was kept hidden from us stupid taxpayers.

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The Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest. Egged on by Pelosi, Democrats slavishly voted for Obamacare by an historic straignt-party line vote. But not one Democrat told Americans about Obamacare's Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

THE PAYOFF--WHO GETS THE MONEY? In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion, and, in 2015 and on, $2 billion

<><> Where is all that money going?

<><> Was cashing-in the incentive in getting the thing passed.

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Taxpayers demand to know ---- why Gruber/Obama/Pelosi didnt reveal that Obamacare contains a multi-billion dollar slush fund? Exactly who is cashing in?

The sound of West Wing wire-transfers to offshore banks is almost palpable.

4 posted on 11/24/2014 3:48:09 AM PST by Liz
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.....ancient wisdom is today distilled in the jury instructions regularly given in US courts.....from California Civil Jury Instruction (CACI) 107: “However, if you decide that a witness has deliberately testified untruthfully about something important, you may choose not to believe anything that witness said.......”

THE US SACROSANCT RULE OF LAW IS UNERRINGLY SPECIFIC: In every US court of law, a lie is considered an admission of guilt.

5 posted on 11/24/2014 3:52:57 AM PST by Liz
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To: Kaslin

bump


6 posted on 11/24/2014 4:13:56 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Kaslin

Thanksgiving is coming up, and my liberal brother and sister will be in attendance. Can’t wait.

Let me see.....”what about that election, Sis?”

“I think I remember last Thanksgiving I predicted Obamacare would implode on its own, pretty good, huh Bro?”

“Have either of you heard about some guy named Goober, and a bunch of video tapes? I have one cued up right here if you’re interested.”

“Hey, pass me some Harry Reid, white meat please.”

“I heard that Obama’s illegal immigration executive order means that Ted Cruz is now eligible to run for President, kinda cool huh?”

Oh man, ‘just can’t wait.


7 posted on 11/24/2014 4:19:19 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Kaslin
liberals must now answer one threshold question before discussing the substance of any new socialist scheme:

Why should we trust anything liberals say about anything?

/echo. I hope there are a bunch of democrat lurkers reading this. Because being exposed as liars is their destiny.

8 posted on 11/24/2014 4:19:20 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Es Mi Partido, Ahora!)
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To: Liz; All

Excellent posts Liz. Thanks. One of the National $ocialists architects of (forced) totalitariancare. A microcosm of Marxism.

Socialism Is Legal Plunder - Bastiat

http://www.usdebtclock.org

And this punk POS calls family, friends, brothers, sisters, grandmas and grandpas who are good-hearted, hard-working, good-natured, non-political…”STUPID Americans”.

Return the money you have plundered from the republic conmen & CONgre$$ and the rest.

Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole — with their common aim of legal plunder — constitute socialism. - Bastiat

You would use the law to oppose socialism? But it is upon the law that socialism itself relies. Socialists desire to practice legal plunder, not illegal plunder. Socialists, like all other monopolists, desire to make the law their own weapon. And when once the law is on the side of socialism, how can it be used against socialism? For when plunder is abetted by the law, it does not fear your courts, your gendarmes, and your prisons. Rather, it may call upon them for help. - Bastiat

Wake up call, Americans.

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.


9 posted on 11/24/2014 4:20:29 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Kaslin

Don’t Gruber me, Bro!


10 posted on 11/24/2014 4:24:51 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: PGalt
Wake up call, Americans----whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness....and Liberty.

Amen.

11 posted on 11/24/2014 4:25:29 AM PST by Liz
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To: Kaslin

12 posted on 11/24/2014 4:26:25 AM PST by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: wayoverontheright
Thanksgiving is coming up, and my liberal brother and sister will be in attendance. Can’t wait.

Have fun with that. May I suggest...that you lay the ground work for 2016. Remind them that Hillary Clinton and the Fauxahontas Senator are just as evil and less capable liars.

13 posted on 11/24/2014 4:37:11 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Es Mi Partido, Ahora!)
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To: PGalt
LOVE THIS ONE: Now, legal plunder can be committed (by the govt) in an infinite number of ways with an infinite number of plans for organizing it:

<><>tariffs,

<><>protection,

<><>benefits,

<><>subsidies,

<><>encouragements,

<><>progressive taxation,

<><>public schools taxation,

<><>guaranteed jobs,

<><>guaranteed profits,

<><>minimum wages,

<><> a right to relief,

<><>a right to the tools of labor,

<><>free credit......and on, and on.

All these plans as a whole — with their common aim of legal plunder — constitute socialism. - Bastiat

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Since Bastiat, the govt has instituted numerous apparat to plunder the treasury for themselves:

<><> foreign aid (think kickbacks),

<><> legislator earmarks,

<><> presidential libraries,

<><> highway funds,

<><> transportation funds,

<><> the Federal Reserve,

<><> stimulus packages,

<><> federal building projects,

<><> a tsunami of new agencies---federally budgeted,

<><> regulated banking system,

<><> and so on and so forth, ad infinitum, ad nauseaum.

14 posted on 11/24/2014 4:40:41 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Tariffs are not a socilist tool. Marx was a “free trader” as it caused massive social instability to be taken advantage of by the communists.


15 posted on 11/24/2014 4:46:29 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

“...when liberals aren’t liars, they’re morons...”

Correction:

“...when liberals are liars, morons or anything else, they are always absolutely psychotic, adolescent,
badly-toilet-trained, subversive scu&bags.

IMHO


16 posted on 11/24/2014 4:53:23 AM PST by ripley
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To: Travis McGee

One should be able to take that GOVT issued comic and SUE the hell out of the Obama, Pelosi, and Reed for LYING and doing the exact opposite in hopes of single payer insurance...regardless of the “Now it’s Law” mentality...

bad dream - I keep telling myself...but I’m fully awake!


17 posted on 11/24/2014 5:00:15 AM PST by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: wayoverontheright

“Thanksgiving is coming up, and my liberal brother and sister will be in attendance. Can’t wait.”

Instead of being shamed into being logical, they will probably repeat the latest liberal talking points that those sleazy, slippery, liberal pundits parrot every time Heir Gruber is mentioned.

(Good Luck)

IMHO


18 posted on 11/24/2014 5:00:49 AM PST by ripley
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To: Liz

Great additions to the list, Liz. You’ve got the picture.

“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.”

http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/

The current grievances have grown exponentially from that one grievance in the 4 July 1776 list of grievances.

(and we’ve not even mentioned other current grievances)

BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM


19 posted on 11/24/2014 5:17:49 AM PST by PGalt
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National Socialists lied to us?

“Everything about socialism is sham and affectation.” - 23.11 Ch23 Evil; Economic Harmonies; Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850)


20 posted on 11/24/2014 5:22:12 AM PST by PGalt
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