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Cleveland police officer shoots 12-year-old boy carrying BB gun
Cleveland.com ^ | 11/23/14 | Corey Schaffer

Posted on 11/23/2014 3:10:20 PM PST by Impala64ssa

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To: gaijin
Along with your warped view of reality, you apparently lack the ability to comprehend. I am from OC, and am very familiar with the Kelly Thomas case. Moreover, I never said police do not at times act irrationally and/or break the law. I asked you to support your lame assertion that is is FACT" (your word, not mine) that "Most" (again, your word, not mine) cops want to do EXACTLY THAT, and that's why they signed up to be a cop.

So can you support it or not, because thus far, you have only managed to make yourself look desperate in trying.

61 posted on 11/23/2014 4:12:42 PM PST by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: Impala64ssa

Was the kid mentally challenged? Did he speak English? If not, then he was an idiot. Harsh? Nope. No matter how much anyone hates cops....they aren’t mind readers. Pull anything on a cop and you get what you deserve.


62 posted on 11/23/2014 4:14:12 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: VerySadAmerican

“kid put the gun in his waste band. “

He had the gun in his underwear?


63 posted on 11/23/2014 4:19:40 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Impala64ssa

Tragic but not a criminal act. Very sad though. One young life lost one rookie cop scarred for the duration.


64 posted on 11/23/2014 4:19:50 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Impala64ssa

“When an officer gives a command, we expect it to be followed,” Tomba said. “The way it looks like right now, it wasn’t followed, but we’re going to continue our investigation.”

What planet do these people live on? Since when does a 12 year old respond “correctly” to commands? I didn’t and my kids didn’t and my grand kids didn’t. And the cop’s kids if he had any didn’t either... So that justifies a shooting?

The cops need to do their job and protect kids (and the rest of us) and not be so damn concentrated on getting home safety. Hell, fireman take risks every day. They’ll run into a burning house. The cops throw in a flash-bang, right into a baby crib... (but then, we can’t have the evidence flushed, can we?)


65 posted on 11/23/2014 4:24:38 PM PST by babygene
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

“Wrong....”

No, he’s not wrong.


66 posted on 11/23/2014 4:28:45 PM PST by babygene
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To: jwalsh07

He died?


67 posted on 11/23/2014 4:29:46 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Graveyard dead.


68 posted on 11/23/2014 4:31:11 PM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Impala64ssa

if you are carrying a weapon - even if you intend no ill will - cops can kill you and not be charged with murder. it’s one of life’s little rules. they can also kill your family pet if they feel it is challenging them.


69 posted on 11/23/2014 4:34:09 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: cripplecreek

This is exactly what is not happening. Cops today are shooting first instead of waiting to confirm if there is a real threat. There was no threat in this case and again a person was shot that shouldn’t have been. Police officers are not authorized by the people to shoot first and ask questions later, in fact it’s just the opposite. The safety of the public comes FIRST and officer safety second. An officer MUST be 100 percent certain innocent life is in peril before firing even if it means getting shot at first.


70 posted on 11/23/2014 4:34:29 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: South40

“It’s a strange world you live in. Since you decided to cite your warped view as “fact”, care to provide any to support your inane comments?”

Actually he’s correct... If there was a kid pointing a gun at you (that reasonably would be a toy) when you went out to get your morning paper, you wouldn’t shoot him, I wouldn’t shoot him and neither would any sane adult.

And if you did, you would and should, go to jail for a long long time.


71 posted on 11/23/2014 4:35:58 PM PST by babygene
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To: Farmer Dean

“I think the bottom line is,the kid did something incredibly foolish and got himself shot.”

All 12 year old’s are foolish...


72 posted on 11/23/2014 4:37:34 PM PST by babygene
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Likewise, since it would be easy to put a fake orange tip on a real gun,

Are there any laws against that? It sounds like a pretty good idea.

73 posted on 11/23/2014 4:38:31 PM PST by PAR35
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To: grania
No parent in their right mind would let a child out of the house with a somewhat real looking gun, with no logical place to practice shooting it, under these conditions.

Kids sneak out with all kinds of things. They also act differently when they get together in "packs" and no adult is around.

This whole thing is just so sad. A 12 year old kid is dead and will never have the opportunity to to grow up and maybe mature into a decent adult. A rookie cop is probably done as a police officer and depending on publicity may go to prison.

74 posted on 11/23/2014 4:38:34 PM PST by wmfights
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To: babygene
Since when does a 12 year old respond “correctly” to commands?

I gotta tell you, you have a very good point there. Was I was 14 or so, I'd hunt groundhogs in my grandfather's corn fields. I used a 22 rifle. Groundhogs cause a lot of damage, and grandfather wanted them gone.

If a cop appeared out of nowhere and yelled "Drop the gun now and get on the ground!", I'd be way too startled to follow that command.

In fact, I'd probably turn towards the sound of the cop's voice, still holding my 22. In today's world that well could have got me shot.

75 posted on 11/23/2014 4:38:38 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

... And the reports’ lips didn’t move much, I bet.


76 posted on 11/23/2014 4:39:03 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: babygene
If there was a kid pointing a gun at you (that reasonably would be a toy) when you went out to get your morning paper, you wouldn’t shoot him, I wouldn’t shoot him

You don't show a location, but it's pretty obvious that you never lived on the east side of Cleveland.

77 posted on 11/23/2014 4:41:43 PM PST by PAR35
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To: precisionshootist

This was only a couple of years ago.

Frankly I don’t buy or care about the idiot liberal tactics a few here seem to cling to. The simple fact is that if police were shooting as many people are you clowns claim, they would be killing thousands per year. They aren’t.

Now go ahead and call me a badge lapper, statist or whatever it is that counts as an argument ender for your kind.


78 posted on 11/23/2014 4:42:19 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“See how often you guess wrong and either “shoot” the innocent or get shot by the gun.”

Since they get the big bucks to take that risk and are paid to protect the public, this was a coward cop that shouldn’t have been in that job.


79 posted on 11/23/2014 4:42:33 PM PST by babygene
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To: precisionshootist

Right, the guy is a disgrace, he should do the right thing and quit the force.


80 posted on 11/23/2014 4:44:09 PM PST by Gasshog (DemoKKKrats: Leaders of the Free Stuff World)
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