Posted on 11/20/2014 7:52:40 PM PST by Stepan12
precisely, the GOP has known that he was going to do this for quite some time now, and they should have made it perfectly clear that IF he was going to ignore the rule of law, was going to violate his oath of office, his oath to uphold the laws of this country, that the GOP would begin IMMEDIATE impeachment procedures and keep at it until they take over the house and senate, and remove him from office for dereliction of duty and for betraying the American people!
[[Right! We have to show that we’re serious about the Constitution and the character of the person in the White House.]]
The problem is that the GOP are NOT serious about the constitution- IF they were, then the president would NEVER have dared do what he did today and in days past when he also violated the constitution and spied on conservatives and violated religion via HC mandates etc- He has violated the constitution several times now and the GOP can apparently only muster up a ‘tsk tsk mr president- you hadn’t aughta do that you know’
When you have a president that has been threatening / boasting for almost 2 weeks that he was going to make a new version of the existing law, by granting amnesty to millions of illegals, and the opposition party in meetings tells Obama that not to worry we are not going to shut the government down and we have people on Fox saying don’t even talk impeachment. This is on the establishment republicans because they allowed him to do this by not pushing back when this first leaked out. This is very dangerous. The rule of law took one in the heart tonight.
I have been and am so unhappy with Obama and his minions that words cannot convey how I feel. I do, however, live in the real world. The House could impeach, but you need 66 votes in the senate to convict. That simply will not happen. If the House impeached Obama, there would be an enormous backlash. And we would probably get Hillary or Liz as president. Just the thought curdles my soul. We need to fight but not impeach.
[[This is on the establishment republicans because they allowed him to do this by not pushing back when this first leaked out. This is very dangerous. The rule of law took one in the heart tonight.]]
Absolutely it did and I blame the republicans just as m uch as the left for this travesty/betrayal- the GOP had a perfect opportunity to let the president know that they took the constitution seriously and that they WOULD NOT STAND for a president who ignores the constitution, yet they quietly ALLOWED him to get away with it and seriously undermined the rule of law- and l;ike you said, set a dangerous precedent that the left, and the current president fully intent to exploit now that they KNOW they CAN get away with it!
[[If the House impeached Obama, there would be an enormous backlash.]]
Not IF you got the American people on your side, the republicans could have been making the case all along that this president has been overstepping his authority, and they could have informing the people that we have laws in this country and that they need to be followed- that even they and the president are duty bound to follow, and that failure to do so should result is losing their job, just like our failure to follow law would result in our losing our jobs as well- they should have been informing the people that NOONE is above the law, and that anyone who thought they were had a rude awakening coming to them.
The gop ‘could have’ gotten the American people o n their side, and could have been so overwhelming that the president would have had no choice BUT to abide by the law or risk his job, however, they chose NOT to
total agreement here
The House should have Articles of Impeachment presented to it by tomorrow morning in a sane world
How do you know that what you wrote. Where’s the proof?
I hear that often on Fox and from the liberal republicans.
Either you defend the constitution or this republican party of fear.
I think those supporting the party politics here are very wrong so, I disagree.
-> The House should have Articles of Impeachment presented to it by tomorrow morning in a sane world.
Amen. I wonder what the Imperial OBama will do next with his EO. And, then watch people scream but it will be too late.
Elephant in the room ping.
It’s complicated, but I believe if you
IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH
read between the lines and search very, very
IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH
hard, you’ll figure out what to do. At least, give
IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH
it a try.
What do you suppose would happen if the Republicans actually really did look into Obama’s past?
I agree - I too believe impeachment proceedings should be started immediately.
I will NOT vote for a Republican who will NOT act to impeach a lawless President.
Obama needs to be held accountable. Why have a Congress when he can unilaterally change our laws with a stroke of the pen?
There is a such a thing as separation of powers, stupid. And the oath to uphold our Constitution, which apparently means nothing to the President.
Time to get the ball rolling.
Come January, we need 13 defectors. Any guesses on how to get them?
I don’t care if Democrats go along or not.
The President has to be stopped and impeachment is a means of last resort.
I think we have reached the point where we have to break the glass. After all, to keep our Republic, we must stop Obama from defying Congress and the American people.
Its not about criminalizing policy differences. Its about sanctioning the President for committing an unconstitutional act.
That’s what we have Congress for. Or do we want him to assume dictatorial powers? That is the issue of our time.
The stakes for our nation have never been higher.
It's either 13 Democrats or the Joint Chiefs.
Actually, maybe an adverse Supreme Court judgement would work. That might provide a justification for the Chiefs to act if Zero were to ignore the Court's judgement.
If we're going to be a banana republic, there is a guide from banana-land: 2009 Honduran coup d'état
I believe you are exactly correct.
It’s not a waste of time to impeach. It will bring the issue to the attention of the low information voter . It will teach people who need to be taught . You lead, you don’t quit before anybody marches with you. It will secure the Good guys place in history if all else fails.
<> It will teach people who need to be taught. <>
So true. Not one in a hundred Americans understand what constitutes a high crime.
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