[taxcontrol]

So let me ask the Freeper community to read the tea leaves.
Does this mean that there will be enough votes with the new Congress?

[Old Sarge]

I wonder what the record is for McCain and Collins to caucus with the Left? That will be a start point...

[sr4402]

There were 13 Democrats voting for the Pipeline including Begich who just lost. Therefore if these Democrat Senators vote the same way this would mean 54+13= 67.

Roll Call Could someone look up the House tally and come up with that side?

[sr4402]

(Correction) There were 13 Democrats voting for the Pipeline including Begich who just lost. Therefore if these Democrat Senators vote the same way this would mean 54+12= 66.

Roll Call Could someone look up the House tally and come up with that side?

[sphinx]

Enough for cloture. Not enough to override a veto.

It is astonishing to see how many MSM stories manage to avoid the f-word. They say that the Senate "defeated" the pipeline, when the Senate voted 59-41 in favor. The Senate failed to break a filibuster, but reporting that accurately would hang the obstructionist tag around Reid, and the MSM won't do that.

[TomGuy]

So let me ask the Freeper community to read the tea leaves.

Next year and in 2016, the Dems will be abandoning Obama in droves. Those wanting to get reelected to their Congressional seats and those wanting to move up to higher elective positions will run away as far and as fast as they can.

Obama has become the same kind of political albatross that GWBush became in his 2nd term.

Candidates having designs on the presidency will also be running Obama and his policies.

Hillary has already expressed disagreements with the Obama policies, as she tries to latch onto Hubby's presidency. That might be a hard sell, however -- trying to as Hubby's 3rd term, since it will have been 16 years since he was president.

[GailA]

It will mean a 10 seat pick up at this point.

With reelection of many RINOS like TN lamar alexander who votes 62% dem, that does not mean we have a majority of conservatives. Then you have all those other RINOS like thad cochran. Who are old men 70+, and RINOS. lamar pulled a cochran on his Conservative opponent State Rep Joe Carr. Otherwise he’d gone down. To many of us are tired of him, and his oath breaking of 2 terms and out. And his RINO voting record and ignoring the voters will.

A lot of us did not vote for our RINO shoe in lame duck governor, as we had 4 Constitutional Amendments on the ballot we needed 3 passed and 1 not to pass. But the GOP idiots ran NO counter adds to Amendment 2 unelected judges. They wanted it passed and were hoping Amendment 1 would sweep it in. And it did.

All the focus was on Amendment 1 which will give our legislature the right to regulate Abortion clinics, which the feds took away. Now they are nasty, dirty, places that don’t even use doctors in many of them.

So the answer is how many RINOS are in both senate and house? And can we be rid of the 2 RINOS no gonads, cry baby and mitch.