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To: PapaNew

One might say that the Homeland Security crowd needed a living Bin Laden to emerge out of Afghanistan. If he died there....none of the massive apparatus would exist today.


2 posted on 11/18/2014 10:01:23 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Good point.

Another example of government using their own failure as an excuse for more government.


3 posted on 11/18/2014 10:14:33 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: pepsionice

And a dead Bin Laden in 2001 may have cooled the jets a bit ahead of the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Maybe.


5 posted on 11/18/2014 10:19:34 AM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents and supporters are Traitors.)
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To: pepsionice

btt


6 posted on 11/18/2014 10:19:59 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: pepsionice

With OBL dead every turd in a turban would have been trying to carry out a terrorist attack to take OBL’s and al Qaeda’s place as the big dog on the block in the muslim terrorist world.

With OBL alive, no other group dared to try and go around him with their own attacks.

One group that did try to go around OBL with his own attack was Zarqawui(SP?) bunch, now ISIS, in 2005.

With tips from al Qaeda, Zarqawei was turned into hamburger by the Air Force.

With OBL alive we only had to worry about one group and OBL always wanted big grand attacks which take time to carry out.

More time it takes for the attack, more time you have to stop an attack. Which Bush and our allies did for the most part.

Since OBL was popped, we are seeing a move to smaller attacks and talk of lone wolf attacks which are much harder if not impossible to stop.


17 posted on 11/18/2014 11:41:37 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: pepsionice

President Bush did not support the creation of DHS, and fought against it. His hand was forced by the Congress at that time.

There are several good videos of him complaining that the DHS would actually decrease the ability of the US to respond to those types of incidents.


19 posted on 11/18/2014 12:10:15 PM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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