How Bin Laden Escaped in 2001—The lessons of Tora Bora

The Daily Beast ^ | 12-15-2013 | Yaniv Barzilai

[Cronos]

After knocking out the Taliban in Afghanistan, Bush should have gone into Pakistan, eliminated the Taliban, Bin Laden and Al Qaeda there and then destroyed Pakistan's "Islamic nuclear bombs" and dismembered Pakistan -- giving the north west frontier province back to Afghanistan (the Pathans are artificially divided by the British colonial era Durand line), given the socialist Baluchistan province to Iran (the Baluchis are also a divided people -- they are an Irani people-- with half living in Baluchistan province and the other half in Iran's Sistan-e-Baloch state) and then cut apart Sindh and Pakistani Punjab

He should have then let Saddam off the hook with the condition that Saddam fight off both the Ayatollahs in Iran and Al Qaeda sunni jihadis (both of whom hated Saddam in any case)

[advertising guy]

Its bs cause of the ole ruler

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[MadIsh32]

It isn’t a “hit” piece it is the truth of what happened in December 2001. Having conversations with people who were involved helps.

The fact is, and anyone involved will tell you off the record, the orders given to the military on the ground allowed Bin Laden to escape, and those orders came from the top.

Bin Laden dead in 2001 effectively satisfies the American public’s need for justice after 9/11. No Iraq War, no trillions of $$ on spending on the GWOT for the rest of the decade and nobody makes any money. The country quickly moves on to other matters at hand in early 2002

[BatGuano]

You can believe your “conversations”, I will believe my sources. BS is BS no matter how you can shape, shade or perfume it. “Off the record” is another term for “look out here comes the BS!!!!” Just one sentence in the piece, concerning “sealing the border” so OBL could not escape is pure BS. I say it again.

[MadIsh32]

How in the hell is that pure BS?

Our boys on the ground had him cornered. Only way for him to escape was to get to Pakistan. And the orders that came down let him escape to Pakistan.

It was a debacle by our leadership that he was allowed to escape. And if you are ever in the DC area send me a message and I’ll be happy to introduce you to people I know who will be happy to tell you what they tell me, in particular about the months leading up to 9/11 and the failure of leadership to get Bin Laden and serve justice quickly in late 2001

[combat_boots]

I remember. We had him trapped up there. Our guys were ordered to let it happen.

[Brother Cracker]

[MadIsh32]

Exactly. And if he is confirmed dead in 2001, the rest of whatever plan people like Kristol/Wolfowitz/Cheney had falls apart because there is no public support. The GWOT is effectively over

[combat_boots]

Makes you wonder whether the Saudis had a hand in that escape. I remember our military being furious.

[MadIsh32]

Would not surprise me. Where there is money to be made, look for a Saudi

[1010RD]

Typical. We would have lost WW2 if our politicians had their way.