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To: philman_36
It's next to impossible to overestimate Gruber's role. Gruber was central to the efforts of Obama, and his lock-stepping Democratic allies, to shove the Progressive poison of Obamacare down the throats of an unwilling citizenry.

================================================ THE PROGRESSIVE POISON OF OBAMA : "The one thing we can’t say is that we did not have a lengthy debate about healthcare in the USA....I think it’s fair to say there was not a provision in the healthcare law that was not extensively debated, was fully transparent (and fully reported).”

Yes, there was a debate---but it was orchestrated by one voice---Jonathan Gruber.

<><> (1) WH sign-in sheets show Gruber went there at least nineteen times.

<><>(2) Gruber, himself, talked about Obama being in the room when the Cadillac tax was invented.

<><> (3) Based on his Obamacare experiences, Gruber took tax dollars from several states to set up Obamacare exchanges....and earned millions of dollars doing so.

<><>(4) Nancy Pelosi is caught on-tape citing Gruber as a reliable source.

<><> (5) Gruber was there when Hillarycare was developed.

<><>(6) Another Gruber confession involved a conspiracy w/ Teddy Kennedy---using govt fraud to manipulate Medicare for some $500 million----to secretly finance Romneycare.

<><>(7) A former adviser to then-HHS Secy Kathleen Sebelius told the NYT Gruber was on-board whie the govt was formulating the plan.

<><> (8) According BarackObama.com 2012, President Obama's official website, Jon Gruber "helped write Obamacare....w/ specific quotes from Obama tying Mitt Romney to ObamaCare...saying that "RomneyCare" was the model for Obamacare.

<><> (9) The Congressional Budget Office Effectively Used Gruber’s Model to Score Obamacare.

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One can only imagine the derision and deprecation of Americans in the halls of Congress, and in the WH, as Gruber reprised his "stupid Americans" act to an appreciative audience of lock-stepping Democrats.

Gruber took his "stupid Americans" act nationwide---paid millions of tax dollars to peddle his Progressive poison allover our country.

18 posted on 11/18/2014 5:29:51 AM PST by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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To: Liz

-——Yes, there was a debate——

I would argue there was not really any debate.

Recall if you will the intense efforts here where we contacted numerous congress critters to learn who was writing the law. We never learned. Even local town hall meetings provided no real insight. We certainly didn’t have knowledge Gruber has revealed. ...... because it was secret

I recall watching the Cavuto show every day. (something I would recommend BTW) He showed video of a closed door in the Capitol behind which a senate group was crafting the final bill. I recall a red telephone on Niel’s desk dedicated to the sole purpose of receiving a call either describing the law being made or inviting a conference to review what was in process.

There was no debate


19 posted on 11/18/2014 5:39:19 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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