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1 posted on 11/16/2014 6:53:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Shut up, Mutt!

2012-01-09 Jonathan Gruber on Mitt Romney and Health Care Reform Youtube video 1:06:19

Mark Levin - "Mitt Romney Used Jonathan Gruber Before Obama - Sorry!" Youtube video 4:16

Former Romney aid (Gruber) says Mitt lying about ObamaCare Youtube video 1:19

HC mandate proponent and Obama stooge Jon Gruber, on Romney's flight from grace Youtube video 5:45 3/30/2011
(Romney supported mandate)

Prof. Jonathan Gruber Explains How He & Sen. Ted Kennedy Helped Implement 'Romney-Care' Youtube video 7:39 7/15/2014

ObamaCare Architect undermines ObamaCare foundation Youtube video 1:18

Published on Jul 25, 2014

Voters got to know Jonathan Gruber in 2012 when the Obama campaign put the health care policy wonk forward to shut down ObamaCare attacks from Republican nominee Mitt Romney. President Obama was so eager to play up Gruber’s role as a chief architect of ObamaCare because Gruber had been a chief architect of Romney’s state-level health law. Elevating Gruber allowed the campaign to deliver his lines with greater crack: “The core of the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare and what we did in Massachusetts are identical," says Gruber in one campaign ad. While Gruber may have helped neuter Romney’s ObamaCare attacks, he may end up helping to neuter the law itself thanks to a video unearthed by free-market think tank the Competitive Enterprise Institute.

Gruber, an MIT professor who has become a Democratic health care talking head, also gets paid for talking to industry groups about ObamaCare. In one 2012 speech, Gruber talked about the provision in the law that has state governments administer enrollments, including subsidies. “I think what’s important to remember politically about this is if you’re a state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits,” said Gruber, a MIT professor, in a speech two years ago. Why is that problematic? Because it directly contradicts what the administration argued in court about a lawsuit that could be “devastating” to ObamaCare because it would end the subsidies paid to enrollees in the states that did not voluntarily comply.

The preferred talking point for pro-administration groups has been to dismiss the subsidy gap as a clerical error, not an intentional policy. It goes like this: Congress meant to provide a way to work around non-compliant states, but didn’t get the wording right. It was, in the words of one administration insider deployed to knock down the court decision, a typo. And who was that insider? You guessed it: Jonathan Gruber. This matters not because it is an embarrassing deception for an academic to be caught in, but because it suggests the falsity of the administration’s claim that this was a glitch and not a feature. The administration was eager to highlight Gruber’s role in order to shame Romney, making it hard now to suggest that he was some peripheral figure. Whether this matters in the expected Supreme Court decision is a matter for the legal eagles to consider, but from a messaging point of view this is a Krakatoa-sized eruption.

The plan pretty plainly was to do on subsidies what the administration has tried to do on Medicaid expansion: pressure governors who do not comply and create talking points for Democratic candidates. It’s just that so many states refused to set up their own ObamaCare shops, including those with supportive governors. The rest of the actual glitches in the law and technology made even some liberal governors opt out and kick the can back to Washington. If the White House can’t argue publicly that this is some silly technicality it goes straight to the heart of the main problem with ObamaCare and voters: they don’t think it works.


2 posted on 11/16/2014 6:54:37 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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Anyone asked him about Gruber yet?


3 posted on 11/16/2014 6:55:41 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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With GOP friends like Romney who needs enemas?


4 posted on 11/16/2014 6:56:12 PM PST by jsanders2001
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The Loser is giving advice. Who wants to listen to the Father of ObamaCare.


5 posted on 11/16/2014 6:56:17 PM PST by txrefugee
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Never watch Defecate on the Nation.

Did they aks him about Jonathan Gruber's involvement in passing RomneyCare in Massachusetts?

6 posted on 11/16/2014 6:56:33 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Shut up, go away. Please!!!!!


7 posted on 11/16/2014 6:56:43 PM PST by Fungi
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If somebody says something on Face The Nation, does anybody hear it?


9 posted on 11/16/2014 6:57:44 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Myth, you are the last person to offer advice on how to get this commie care expunged from our nation, this crap is of your making!!!


10 posted on 11/16/2014 6:58:55 PM PST by Not now, Not ever! (Girlfriend suggested I use pelousy in place of swear words, A good idea, I think)
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Re: “The need to work for a permanent solution, as opposed to a temporary stop-gap solution...”

Can this really be a surprise to anyone who pays attention to the GOP leadership?

We always knew they were going to cave on Amnesty and ObamaCare as soon as they were reelected.

12 posted on 11/16/2014 7:03:06 PM PST by zeestephen
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Man. This guy was almost president!


13 posted on 11/16/2014 7:04:17 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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Can anyone still believe we have ignorant nuts still posting negative Romney. They will never learn that if they had helped elect Romney we would not have the problems we are now facing in King Obama’s second term.
14 posted on 11/16/2014 7:04:52 PM PST by Logical me
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How old is he now?


15 posted on 11/16/2014 7:04:55 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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I-M-P-E-A-C-H-M-E-N-T!


16 posted on 11/16/2014 7:06:07 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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Surrender is always good.


17 posted on 11/16/2014 7:06:47 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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He’s ALWAYS available.


20 posted on 11/16/2014 7:13:17 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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Harry Reid has actually made a government shut down doable, I would think. All the Republican Senate needs to do is expand Reid’s gutting of the filibuster rules to all debate ( you know the Dems are going to do it anyway at any time in the future they’re in the majority), then pass individual bills funding whatever services Obama tries to shut down. If Obama vetoes any of the bills, there will be no question who’s responsible.


21 posted on 11/16/2014 7:23:09 PM PST by gusopol3
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maybe you did not notice but they are all saying that


23 posted on 11/16/2014 7:25:35 PM PST by woofie
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Why is this person speaking to me as if i needed his advice?


25 posted on 11/16/2014 7:32:54 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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If Obama vetoes a budget, Obama would be the one shutting down the government.


26 posted on 11/16/2014 7:41:01 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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I remember being almost banned from this site in 2012 for suggesting Mitt Romney was not the best candidate for the Republican Party.


27 posted on 11/16/2014 7:53:12 PM PST by The Swing
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