Posted on 11/13/2014 7:57:38 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
Whos going to buy the J-31?
The recent appearance of the aircraft at the Zhuhai airshow, as well as the comments of a smattering of Chinese officials, led to a spate of articles suggesting that China was interested in the J-31 primarily as an export model. Conceivably, the J-31 could occupy a low-end stealth fighter niche that currently has no other entrants.
Some have billed the J-31 as Chinas answer to the F-35, as if that represented some sort of compliment. Its hardly a stretch to suggest Pakistan would be a major customer, and perhaps Egypt as well. Beyond that? The United States can offer the F-35 to a wide range of European and Asian countries, all of which have strong economies, big defense budgets, an appetite for high tech, and an interest in cementing the long-term technological and political relationship with the United States.
Beijing doesnt have the kind of friends that would do it the favor of buying something like the F-35. If the sanctions on Iran ease up in the wake of a successful nuclear deal, Tehran will be looking to buy advanced fighters. If the Assad government ever manages to win its civil war, it too will need new fighters, but probably wont be able to afford anything like the J-31. The Gulf monarchies buy weapons in order to create political ties, and are unlikely to shift their attention from Washington to Beijing unless the international system changes in immense and unforeseen ways.
Malaysia and Indonesia have been known to make adventurous decisions with respect to fighter purchases, but given the tensions in the South China Seas, its unlikely that China would want to significantly increase their capabilities, or that theyd want to tie themselves to Chinese support. Several Latin American countries may soon recapitalize their air forces, but the Europeans seem to have a leg up in that market, and thus far the Latin Americans seem satisfied with reliable generation 4.5 fighters.
Russia and India, of course, are right out.
At this point, no one has a good sense of how much the J-31 might cost, or how the Chinese might try to package it. If the J-31 resembles the F-35 in anything but superficial terms, the system add-ons will matter as much as the airframe itself. The F-35, after all, sells itself as the center of a system of sensor and communications systems that facilitates air command. This system requires a variety of other components (drones, EW aircraft, satellites), and the system is enhanced by the capacity of F-35s to work together to create a more accurate vision of the battlespace.
Theres no indication as of yet that the J-31 is supposed to have these kinds of emergent capabilities, and theres little sense that China is capable of developing and exporting such systems along with the airframe. Americas friends buy the F-35 because they worry that their legacy aircraft wont be able to coordinate effectively with U.S. planes in multilateral combat situations. China doesnt have this kind of relationship with anyone, and consequently cant make one of the biggest cases for buying a fifth generation fighter.
Competing with the F-35 requires more than developing an effective airframe. The F-35 remains attractive not because its awesome, but because its embedded in a larger set of political and technological relationships. China has a lot of work to do before it can compete with that.
America should buy one or two — just for the fun of taking them apart and looking for weaknesses.
ISIL has gold and cash money.
>>Competing with the F-35 requires more than developing an effective airframe. The F-35 remains attractive not because its awesome, but because its embedded in a larger set of political and technological relationships. China has a lot of work to do before it can compete with that.<<
The definition of a camel: a mouse built to government specifications.’
The F-35 “flying anvil” has been so degraded by mission creep that it can be bested by an off the shelf F-16 or F/A-18. Of course, said F-35 doesn’t have a chance against an F-15.
I’d like to see something more than a prototype before I plunk down my money, thank you.
what a ripoff!
China’s oldest ally is already planning to sign up
http://www.janes.com/article/45718/airshow-china-2014-pakistan-in-talks-to-buy-30-40-fc-31s
while continuing to receive US aid...
Robert Farley is exceedingly ignorant about the F-35.
google has never heard of anyone other than you calling the f-35 the “flying anvil”. One other reference, and that one was also a post of yours here on FR.
I thought the plane had a new nickname, but apparently all it has is a dedicated detractor.
I thought the plane had a new nickname, but apparently all it has is a dedicated detractor.
Being a prophet is hard work!
I should have said those very words when I got married the 1st time!
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ah, ok. now I get it. but you’re gonna have to pick up the pace a bit ;)
The F-35 remains attractive not because its awesome, but because its embedded in a larger set of political and technological relationships.
The F-35 remains attractive because its awesome.
Just which European countries have a large defense budget?
Most compelling to me among the hullabaloo around the world about whether this plane is any good is that Israel,wants some of them....
If it were anything less than the very best warplane out there those Jews (respectfully) would not spend 143, 000,000 each for them!
USA buy them and put US engines and avionics in them. It would be cheaper than each F-35 off the assembly line.
You have probably picked the most expensive parts from F-35 and planning to put into clearly inferior airframe?:)
It doesn’t sounds smart from both budget and tactical perspective.
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