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Obamacare architect discussed misleading public in 4th newly uncovered video
CNN ^ | Jake Tapper

Posted on 11/13/2014 12:04:07 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Washington(CNN)--As Congress voted on the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, in 2010, one of the bill's architects, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber, told a college audience that those pushing the legislation pitched it as a bill that would control spiraling health care costs even though most of the bill was focused on something else and there was no guarantee the bill would actually bend the cost curve.

In recent days, the past comments of Gruber--who in this 2010 speech notes that he "helped write the federal bill" and "was a paid consultant to the Obama administration to help develop the technical details as well"--have been given renewed attention. In previously posted but recently noticed speeches, Gruber discusses how those pushing the bill took part in an "exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the American voter," taking advantage of voters' "stupidity" to create a law that would ultimately be good for them.

In this fourth video, Gruber's language is not as stark as in three previous instances,but his suggestion that Obamacare proponents engaged in less-than-honest salesmanship remains.

"Barack Obama's not a stupid man, okay?" Gruber said in his remarks at the College of the Holy Cross on March 11, 2010. "He knew when he was running for president that quite frankly the American public doesn't actually care that much about the uninsured....What the American public cares about is costs. And that's why even though the bill that they made is 90% health insurance coverage and 10% about cost control, all you ever hear people talk about is cost control. How it's going to lower the cost of health care, that's all they talk about. Why? Because that's what people want to hear about because a majority of American care about health care costs."

You can watch the speech on the C-SPAN website here.....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aca; california; fraud; gruber; grubergate; grubervideo; healthcarelies; jaketapper; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; obamacare; obamacarelies; stupidvoters; tyranny
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1 posted on 11/13/2014 12:04:07 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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“.....When a study came out showing that Obamacare increased Emergency Room visits, contrary to claims of the law’s supporters, Gruber said the claim that it would lower costs was “misleading.”

“The law isn’t designed to save money. It’s designed to improve health, and that’s going to cost money,” Gruber said.....”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/pelosi-claims-jonathan-gruber-architect-obamacare-didnt-help-write-obamacare_818974.html


2 posted on 11/13/2014 12:04:56 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well this just gets better and better...


3 posted on 11/13/2014 12:07:00 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Must be the Democrats in Congress, who are the ones, Herr Gruber is/was calling the “Stupid Voters”. No/Zero Republicans in congress voted for Obamacare! Now, we all knew the democrats in Congress were the Stupid Voters!

A lot of Americans and many freepers have amnesia, when it comes to this documented ObamaCare voter history in Congress!

The documented history on the ObamaCare votes in Congress. Every single democrat senator and every single democrat congressit voted to make this Obamacare the law without reading nor understanding what they voted for.

Every single Republican in Congress voted against this Obamacare.

So, the stupid rats in congress own ObamaCare as per their own expert, Herr Gruber‘s You Tube comments.

4 posted on 11/13/2014 12:07:09 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This just goes to show that even the most highly educated libs are still idiots.


5 posted on 11/13/2014 12:08:31 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Grampa Dave; All
1:35 YouTube Video: A Montage of Obama's "If You Like Your Plan Keep It" Lies
6 posted on 11/13/2014 12:09:38 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is great.

Some FReeper yesterday made the observation about how much it would now suck to be this Gruber guy, trying to remember all of the times you gave the “people are stupid” speech, and in what venues, wondering every hour if another video will be aired. HA


7 posted on 11/13/2014 12:10:55 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Less than a minute earlier. :)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3226672/posts

CNN: Obamacare architect discussed misleading public in 4th newly uncovered video (Gruber)
CNN ^ | November 13, 2014 | Jake Tapper
Posted on November 13, 2014 at 2:03:12 PM CST


8 posted on 11/13/2014 12:11:35 PM PST by maggief
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To: Grampa Dave
Every single Republican in Congress voted against this Obamacare.

House passes health-care reform bill without Republican votes "..... The House voted 219 to 212 to approve the measure, with every Republican voting no. The measure now awaits President Obama's signature. In remarks Sunday night, he said that the vote "proved that we are still capable of doing big things. We proved that this government -- a government of the people and by the people -- still works for the people."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her colleagues erupted in cheers and hugs as the votes were counted, while Republicans who had fought the Democratic efforts on health-care reform for more than a year appeared despondent.

"Today we have the opportunity to complete the great unfinished business of our society and pass health insurance reform for all Americans as a right, not a privilege," Pelosi said before the House approved the bill, which first passed the Senate on Christmas Eve.

The debate has consumed Obama's first year in office, with his focus on the issue amid a deep recession and crippling job losses potentially endangering his reelection prospects and Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate. It has inflamed the partisanship that Obama pledged to tame when he campaigned for the White House and has limited Congress's ability to pass any other major legislation, at least until after the midterm elections in November.

And it has sparked a citizens' revolt that reached the doors of the Capitol this weekend."

"If we pass this bill, there will be no turning back," House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) warned on the floor. "In a democracy, you can only ignore the will of the people for so long and get away with it." ............

9 posted on 11/13/2014 12:14:19 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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4 Grubergate videos so far make Nixon’s little tape gap look like a sneeze in preschool</B>

First You Tube link to Gruber bragging about lying to stupid American Voters about ObozoCare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI

Second Grubergate Video link to Gruber bragging about how stupid American voters are/were to pass ObozoCare.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/12/gruber-video-2-no-really-american-voters-are-stupid/

Third Video from Herr Gruber on stupid Americans wanting Obozocare.

http://weaselzippers.us/205230-three-strikes-third-video-of-obamacare-architect-jonathan-gruber-calling-americans-stupid/

Fourth Grubergate video from Herr Gruber re stupid Americans.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?292478-1/health-care-reform

Remember zero Republicans in Congress voted for ObozoCare. Every stupid rat in Congress voted for it without reading the bill or caring what was in it.


10 posted on 11/13/2014 12:15:10 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: maggief

I did search to see if it had been post but then I took time getting some links so.....

: )


11 posted on 11/13/2014 12:18:27 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This Gruber snafu inadvertently gives evidence of a prevailing democrat lie. They claim taxes on companies are not passed along to consumers.

From one recent Gruber video:
“Until a second Massachusetts hero arose, John Kerry. John Kerry said no-no we’re not going to tax your heath insurance, we’re going to tax those evil insurance companies. We’re going to impose a tax that if they sell health insurance that’s too expensive we’re going to tax them. And conveniently the tax rate will happen to be the marginal tax rate on the income tax code. So basically it’s the same thing – we just tax insurance companies, they pass on higher prices, that offsets the tax break we get into being the same thing. It’s a very clever basic exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the American voter.”

Yet democrats persist in arguing that taxes on companies do not raid the bank accounts of customers.

12 posted on 11/13/2014 12:19:39 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Grampa Dave

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/13/nancy-pelosi-caught-lying-never-heard-of-gruber-de/


13 posted on 11/13/2014 12:20:59 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No problem ... and thank you.


14 posted on 11/13/2014 12:21:12 PM PST by maggief
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This post made pursuant to the authority granted me by RULE #5 of “RULES FOR RADICALS” by that darling of the loopy left and obozo's and hillary's mentor, Saul Alinsky!  photo GRUBERpopupcopy_zpsd0a3ec62.jpg

15 posted on 11/13/2014 12:22:56 PM PST by Dick Bachert (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

CBS reporting on CNN story: “......Asked about Gruber’s comments from a 2013 University of Pennsylvania panel in which the economist said “a lack of transparency was a huge political advantage for the President…” in selling the bill to the American people, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said “the process associated with writing and passing and implementing the Affordable Care Act has been extraordinarily transparent.”

Earnest insisted “it is Republicans who have been less than forthright and transparent about what their proposed changes to the Affordable Care Act would do in terms of the choices that are available to middle-class families. I know there is at least one very prominent Republican who campaigned for reelection saying that he would repeal the Affordable Care Act, but yet keep in place the Affordable Care Act marketplace that has operated very successfully in his state.”

Asked about Gruber’s reference to the “stupidity of the American voter,” Earnest said, “I disagree vigorously with that assessment.”

Gruber declined to comment to CNN.

On Thursday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., was asked about Gruber’s remarks. “I don’t know who he is,” she said. “He didn’t help write our bill.” A Washington Post story noted that Pelosi in 2009 cited Gruber’s work approvingly.”.....

http://wtvr.com/2014/11/13/affordable-care-act-architect-discussed-misleading-public-in-newly-uncovered-video/


16 posted on 11/13/2014 12:23:27 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Dick Bachert

“Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Thursday said that comments from an ObamaCare consultant questioning voters’ intelligence fit the definition of a “Washington gaffe” — when someone inadvertently tells you what they believe is true.

“What this insider is saying confirms that they were spinning tales from the beginning that they did not tell the truth about ObamaCare,” McConnell said during a briefing shortly after Republicans elected him majority leader in the next Congress......”

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/224067-mcconnell-stupidity-remark-perfect-example-of-a-washington-gaffe


17 posted on 11/13/2014 12:25:07 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Republicans have long charged that the healthcare reform bill was pushed through without public scrutiny. A gaffe from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in 2010 added to this impression. “We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it, away from the fog of the controversy,” Pelosi said. Pelosi argues the remark was taken out of context and that she was referring to the uncertainty about what legislation would emerge from the Senate. But the comment still echoes in conservative rhetoric four years later."..... http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/223953-voter-stupidity-remark-gives-gop-new-ammo-on-obamacare
18 posted on 11/13/2014 12:27:31 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks for the excellent link to a great article discussing and documenting the lies of the Fascist Pelosi.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/13/nancy-pelosi-caught-lying-never-heard-of-gruber-de/


19 posted on 11/13/2014 12:27:50 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He had to be talking about this A LOT for there to be multiple videos of it being said, because he couldn’t have been recorded every single time he said it.


20 posted on 11/13/2014 12:30:43 PM PST by tbw2
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