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'S-cuse me? After watching the antics of this much revered clown show, it would appear to me that they didn't stop with Rosemary. In fact, it seems that it was so popular in the family that they all had a lobotomy done. Just listening to bobby jr should prove this out.

Thanks Vets.

1 posted on 11/11/2014 7:49:10 AM PST by rktman
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Apparently, this fiasco was “the true inspiration for his famous family’s love of service.”

Like Ted Kennedy's service to Mary Jo Kopechne!?

What a bunch of hooey.

2 posted on 11/11/2014 7:54:03 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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JFK, heroically got his pt boat run down by a destroyer.
And got praise for it.
This is similar to getting your Porsche run down by a Pontiac Parisienne.


3 posted on 11/11/2014 7:55:09 AM PST by Darksheare (People who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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They butchered a poor girl who had a few emotional issues. That clan are a bunch of disgusting self-centered narcissists. They need to go find an island where they can all stand around feeling important get drunk and idolize each other.


4 posted on 11/11/2014 7:55:18 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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Truth was Ole Joe was ashamed of her and thought she could hurt his sons’ political careers so he had her lobotomized. Lobotomy doesn't help the developmentally disabled so he then had to lock her away in an institution to keep her out of public view and for the most part forgotten by the family; certainly the old man and the boys.

That part of the story doesn't seem to heroic.

5 posted on 11/11/2014 7:55:58 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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Apparently, this fiasco was “the true inspiration for his famous family’s love of service.”

Apparently, this fiasco was “the true inspiration for his famous family’s love of self-service.”

There. Fixed it.

6 posted on 11/11/2014 7:57:34 AM PST by Texas Eagle
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Rosemary Kennedy’s lobotomy is testimony to how truly vile and evil Joseph Kennedy really was.

Rosemary was born mildly retarded. Her mother, Rose, worked hard to give her a normal upbringing and keep her with her family.

But Joe secretly arranged for the lobotomy-—then a very dangerous and experimental procedure without even bothering to consult with Rose. A procedure which made Rosemary much worse and was confined to a convent for the rest of her life.

There were many despicable thing Joe Kennedy did, including his cowardice and Nazi sympathizing as ambassador to Great Britain during WWII, running away from the London Blitz and hiding in the countryside. Not to mention stealing the 1960 presidential election among other things.


7 posted on 11/11/2014 7:57:35 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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Joseph Kennedy was a despicable human being. Read The Dark Side Of Camelot and The Sins Of The Father. One doctor who advised against performing the surgery was interviewed before he died. The surgery should never had occurred. Rosemary was not mentally disabled. She did not attend Harvard; she was attending community college - not good enough for daddy.


9 posted on 11/11/2014 8:02:00 AM PST by bunnie911
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Teddy got a bottleinfrontofme.


12 posted on 11/11/2014 8:03:22 AM PST by Paladin2
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On through the whole democratic party.


13 posted on 11/11/2014 8:04:50 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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Rosemary Kennedy's Inconvenient Illness


14 posted on 11/11/2014 8:06:40 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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” the lobotomized Rosemary Kennedy, sister to Jack, Bobby and Teddy.

"Suddenly, Last Summer..."

18 posted on 11/11/2014 8:18:50 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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What’s with the constant rehabilitation of the images of the Kennedy family? Someone must want to run for office in 2016.

I just wish that they would stop with the ‘mental retardation’ fiction. Rosemary might have had some mild learning disabilities, but the biggie was that she was most likely beginning to signs of schizophrenia, and was beginning to act out sexually-running around, sneaking out to be with men.

There are stories of men who danced with Rosemary at parties while they were in England, and they all said while she was quieter & more withdrawn than her siblings, she was perfectly able to fully function (converse, dance) in the strict society of 1930’s England.

Joe Kennedy Sr. was such an evil scumbag he decided in incapacitate his daughter rather than have her risk embarrassing the family & destroying their (already) questionable reputation.


21 posted on 11/11/2014 8:27:03 AM PST by SweetAkitoRose (lurking since 1998)
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What's your "Kennedy Claim to Fame"?


25 posted on 11/11/2014 8:46:17 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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PBS documentary on the bloody butcher, Walter Freeman: The Lobotomist

People think that lobotomy is some sort of precision brain surgery. It isn't. Or, at least, it wasn't in Rosemary's time. The procedure, called ice-pick lobotomy, was to take a metal rod like a knitting needle, push the eyeball out of the way, and shove the rod through the back of the eye socket and into the frontal lobe of the brain. Then, wrench the rod around so as to stir the lobal material into mush.

27 posted on 11/11/2014 8:58:31 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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My own theory on this sad saga is Joe Kennedy raped his daughter and had her lobotomized to shut her up.

And why is that my theory? Nothing more than Joe was a nasty, remorseless criminal whose evil passed quite smoothly to at least three of his sons.


28 posted on 11/11/2014 9:05:28 AM PST by ScottinVA (We either destroy ISIS there... or fight them here. Pick one, America.)
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If you were to look at the Kennddy Boys and their labido’s ole Joe may have felt it necessary to shut Rosemary up.


30 posted on 11/11/2014 9:22:29 AM PST by Joe Boucher (The F.B.I. Is a division of holders Justice Dept. (Nuff said))
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As People explained, “The third of Joseph P. Kennedy and Rose’s children, Rosemary was born mentally disabled in 1918

The truth is Rosemary was born normally. She had some learning difficulties, but could do math - long division and algebra.

Her main problem was that she was not athletically coordinated and became frustrated when she could not keep up with all the other athletic Kennedy's.

Her father saw her inadequacies as imperfections that he could not bear.

So, he got a doctor to "fix" the problem, which left her worse off and unable to care for herself.

If you want to know the truth about Rosemary then read "Sins of the Father" by Ronald Kessler.

32 posted on 11/11/2014 9:24:24 AM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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This barbaric procedure was performed on my maternal grandmother in the 1940’s. It left her child like for the rest of her long life. I’m not sure why it was done but she was “delicate” according to relatives. I have always thought my grandfather had it done for some (probably selfish) reason. He was a real bastard.


35 posted on 11/11/2014 9:58:31 AM PST by Himyar (Sessions: the only real man in D.C.)
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