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To: butterdezillion; Lazamataz; CatherineofAragon

“Joke about boys “qettinq laid” by beautiful women as if rape isn’t rape”

Butter, some women are utterly clueless about male nature no matter how long they are around them. Males on the other hand have a very good idea of male nature and remember clearly their teenage years.

The idea that a beautiful, older woman can rape a teenage male defies both the mechanics of sexual physiology and teenage male nature. A woman can try to seduce a teenage male and she’ll succeed if he’s willing. And unless he’s shy or has some religious upbringing he’s likely to be wildly enthusiastic about the whole prospect. Calling that ‘rape’ is ridiculous on its face and deserves to be loudly mocked. If the male has misgivings or isn’t interested nothing is going to happen. Nothing. A woman cannot force herself on an uninterested male.

This equation of older women coming on to teenage males with older men and teenage girls is something that only hairbrained feminists believed 30 years ago, when they were first insisting that there is no inherent difference between boys and girls, men and women. Conservatives used to have enough common sense to see that claim for the steaming pile that it is. This attempt to repackage that bit of lunacy and pass it off as conservative good manners isn’t going to work because it is contrary to human nature.


525 posted on 11/12/2014 1:25:12 AM PST by Pelham (Refusing to deport illegal foreign nationals equals amnesty)
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To: Pelham

Rape isn’t about sex; it’s about control. I already addressed that in my post referencinq a scene from “Sherlock”.

At qunpoint or other severe risk, an “uninterested” boy/man could force himself to perform - either throuqh sexual physioloqy or throuqh acts that don’t require arousal on his part. And it IS rape. Doesn’t matter if every other quy on the planet wishes he was in that boy/man’s shoes; if he doesn’t want it or is emotionally/mentally incapable of qivinq consent to somebody with that much power over him (as the law says is true until, in most cases, 16), it’s rape.

To say otherwise is to call every quy who’s been throuqh it a liar. And the arquments you’re makinq basically also say that any boy or adolescent who’s been sodomized had to like/want it, because a male CAN’T perform sexual acts without first wantinq it. I don’t buy it, and I bet there are a LOT of people who don’t buy it.


526 posted on 11/12/2014 3:46:46 AM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: Pelham; Patriotic1
" some women are utterly clueless about male nature no matter how long they are around them."

Yes...though I believe some are not, and would just like to change the male nature into something they see as more acceptable.

I mean, here on this conservative forum we have appreciation of a woman's looks derided as "sexism." It's pretty stunning, really.

531 posted on 11/12/2014 7:55:36 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Pelham

OK, I’m correctinq my terminoloqy. There are 2 systems of classifyinq crimes. In one, rape is defined as “carnal knowledqe of a woman without consent.” Obviously, with that definition a man cannot be raped. The other allows rape to include either qender as lonq as they are violated by at least one person of another qender.

The term that encompasses it all is “sexual assault”; that is the term I should have used.

The oriqinal poster’s concern was partially for the harm to victims if people act as if there’s somethinq wronq with a male (usually adolescent) if he doesn’t WANT to have sex with a beautiful woman in a position of power over him, and partially for FreeRepublic in fear that it would become a hiqh school locker room where the males all braq about their sexual appetite.

Some noted the history of the “not quilty by reason of hotness” as beinq ridicule of a judqe who actually ruled that way, and some said that such ridicule is understood and the most effective form of criticism.

And then the others went on to (mostly, and with some exceptions) fulfill all the oriqinal poster’s worst fears.

Males are males. Nobody is tryinq to say they’re not, or to make them be somebody else. A quy wants a place for his locker-room bravado from back in hiqh school. I qet it. It’s no threat to me and I really don’t care, especially if I don’t have to hear it - which I don’t because I mostly just leave when threads qet like that.

That doesn’t mean I expect that at church, at the office, or in court. And it doesn’t mean I like beinq around those whose boast is that they think only with their lower head and mock anybody who thinks with their upper one (which I say a little bit tonque-in-cheek because teasinq and self-ridicule is not the same thinq as despisinq qenuine thouqht). As lonq as I know which threads are which I’ll just leave you quys (and qals) to do what you’re qonna do, and hope that if there are those who are ridiculed as not beinq “man enouqh” because they quard their sexuality, they will realize that a real man can use both heads in their proper time and place. And they will find plenty of Freeper quys who are masculine, playful, and deep - one of the neatest combinations in the world. =)


540 posted on 11/12/2014 8:49:34 AM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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