Posted on 11/07/2014 11:24:49 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
".................In one email from March 2011, after being sent a news story about the Fast and Furious investigation, Holder told staff, "I hope there is another side to the story." Later, after the ATF deputy director assured Holder aides that "we did not allow guns to walk," Holder responded to staff with, "Do they really, really know?"
That August, Holder was told by staff that about 25 U.S. attorneys was upset that the resignation of Dennis Burke, then the U.S. attorney in Arizona, was announced simultaneously with the reassignment of ATF Acting Director Ken Melson. Holder wondered "why wouldn't we get the benefit of the doubt. Assume we're doing things for the right reasons and in the right way."
Holder later added, "Some people can kiss my ass."
(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...
We need clarity on the IRS scandal. We cannot have a nation where the government can loose its enforcement arm of the most intrusive and punitive of its institutions to destroy the lives of those whom the President politically disagrees. It is a tragedy, a violation of the spirit and letter of the Constitution, and diminishes the status of our nation by polluting the greatest things about America. We are not like other nations, we are not the Soviet Union, we are not the psychotic dicatorships nor the slave kingdoms of the world, we are a nation of laws, of individual rights that cannot be infringed upon by the government.
In short Holder and Obama besmirched America, and reduced our nation to the insanity of a third world despotic regime, because that is how they acted.
Is he immune from ANY prosecution? There has got to be a way to hang that bastard.
Never assume, cause it makes an ass of u and me.
Holder was already an ass. Perhaps assuming made him look like a bigger ass.
Well, that’s auto correct for ya. He really typed, “some people can kick my ass.”
He’s going to prison for his crimes, unless Zero or one of his other criminal co-conspirators doesn’t want the exposure and just bumps him off.
"Assume we are right".
65,000 suppressed documents under "Executive privilege" of a White House that claimed no involvement would indicate otherwise...
I liked how they echoed past dictators with that “assume we are right” crap.
Wondering when they start with the gas chambers and cremations.
Another “Cool Hand Luke” fan?
This skit was a Cheech and Chong one for some reason.
Their “high seas” skit.
Dunno why.
*groan*
I had an odd upbringing.
Say no more. ;^)
LOL.
Quite terrible.
The Department of Justice s Operation Fast and Furious: Accounts of ATF AgentsAgent Casa recounted a similar situation. He had also never heard of, nor seen, guns being allowed to walk until he got to Phoenix:
. . . . But from the time I started as an ATF special agent . . . up until the time I got to Phoenix, that was my understanding, that we do not let guns walk, absolutely, positively not. And if we if ever a case [where]we would do that, there better be a really good explanation why we did not grab that gun when we could.
Q. But that changed when you came to Phoenix, I mean the practice at least changed, correct?
A. Yes.
(snip)
As Agent Dodson testified:
Q. Based on our training and experience, what did you think about [walking guns]?
A. It was something I had never done before, sir. And quite frankly, I took great issue with it and concern.I felt like I understand the importance of going after the bigger target, but there is a way to do that. We did it successfully in the dope world all the time. And those skills and practices that we used there, a lot of them transfer over, and more than applicable in gun trafficking investigations, but we werent allowed to use any of them.
Q. And did you ever have a recollection of sharing your frustration with Special Agent Casa?
A. Oh, yes, sir.
Q. And any other special agents that you can
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And maybe you could just tell us what other agents you
A. Pretty much everyone, sir. It was, I shared my reservations and concerns with Special Agent [L], with Dave Voth, with Special Agent [D]Special Agent [H], Special Agent Alt, Special Agent [P], several of the special agents that came on the GRIT, G-R-I-T. The gunrunner initiative is what it stands for. I shared them with or I voiced my concerns to other agents inside the Phoenix field division that was on other groups.
(snip)
Despite this e-mail, agents continued to experience dismay and frustration as Operation Fast and Furious continued along its perilous path. As Agent Casa testified:
Q. And is it fair to say that. . .the folks on your side of the schism wanted to do everything they could to interdict these weapons so they wouldnt get any farther down the street than they have to?
A. Yes, sir. We were all sick to death when we realized that when we realized what was going on or when we saw what was going on by the trends. We were all just, yes, we were all distraught.
The rift widened when the Assistant Special Agent in Charge (ASAC) authoritatively and unambiguously told Group VII that guns were not being walked, that the special agents were incorrect in their terminology, and that there would be no more discussion or dissension about this topic. Agent Dodson testified:
A. Then we get an e-mail that . . . there is going to be a meeting. [the ASAC] is coming down, [the ASAC] comes into the Group 7 office and tells us essentially we better stand down with our complaints, that we didnt know what the definition of walking guns was, we werent familiar with the Phoenix way of doing things, that all of this was sanctioned and we just needed to essentially shut up and get in line. Thats not a quote, but thats the feel of the meeting, so . . .
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