Don't forget, they were wearing helmets declared by Yanukovich to be illegal.
Posted on 11/07/2014 6:02:16 AM PST by Kartographer
A column of 32 tanks, 16 howitzer artillery systems and trucks carrying ammunition and fighters has crossed into eastern Ukraine from Russia, the Kiev military said on Friday.
"The deployment continues of military equipment and Russian mercenaries to the front lines," spokesman Andriy Lysenko said in a televised briefing referring to Thursday's cross-border incursion.
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The definition of junta does not exclude a political power grab, besides which the Maidan radicals were armed and organized along military lines.
Far from restoring constitutional order the Ukie junta went out of its way to subvert it and if anyone is guilty of misusing police and military force internally, they are.
Don't forget, they were wearing helmets declared by Yanukovich to be illegal.
“A phoney ad hoc attempt to legitimize the Maidan coup which led to Ukie junta taking power.”
There is nothing “ad hoc” about following normal procedure in which Yanukovych verbally announces his decision to resign in a meeting with leaders of the parliament prior to taking the formal document to a session of the full parliament to make the formal announcement as mandated by the constitution. After this meeting in which Yanukovych announced his immediate resignation, Yanukovych was persuaded by his Russian advisers to denounce his resignation, otherwise the Russian Government would refuse to provide him and his family with sanctuary in Russia. So, Yanukovych falsely denied his announced resignation and availed himself of the protection of his Ukrainian and Russian bodyguards to flee anticipated arrest warrants and prosecution for his crimes by accepting his Russian intelligence service handlers’ sanctuary in Russia.
Once again, your use of “Ukie” as a prejudicial perjorative is offensive, and your use of “junta” is a flat out lie. As stated so many times before, you are simply repeating the lie over and over again as disinformation and false propaganda. The Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament) voted unanimously 328-0 to remove Yanukovych as President due to his incapacity to perform the duties mandated by the constitution. A junta is a group of military officers who have unlawfully seized control of a government to rule by decree and not by legislation enacted by lawfully elected representatives of the citizens. The Verkhovna Rada are the lawfully elected representatives of the citizens of the Ukraine, so they cannot possibly be described as a “junta” as you are falsely doing to wrongfully prejudice public opinion.
What a pack of miserable lies, with you trying to compare the highly vulnerable protestors to the heavily armed Berkut, OPLAT, and airborne military troops armed with armored infantry fighting vehicles, machine guns, and sniper rifles. Not to mention the improvised hand grenades where Berkut officers taped metal shrapnel to stun grenades to transform them into lethal hand grenades.
“The attack was reported....”
Oh yeah, the attack on Yanukovych was reported, and it was even video recorded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE7SkSklXcQ
Well done throughout the thread!
Your story makes no sense. If Yanokovich was going to resign the presidency immediately, then it would have been made known to the group of people he was negotiating with and become part of the written agreement they all signed. It wasn't part of the agreement and Yanokovich made no such "announcement".
-btw the term Ukie is common shorthand for Ukrainian and has no negative connotation assigned to it. Likewise, most serious analysis of the Ukie crisis taking place outside the perview of the Obama State Dept. acknowledge the extra-constitutional manner in which Yanokovich was removed from power. The Ukie parliament doesn't have the power to vote him out unilaterally which is part of the reason the 'verbal resignation' story was invented.
Listen, while we’re talking about the “legality” of this and that, Yanukovych did not have the “legal” authority to order his troops to open fire on people wearing colanders on their heads, either.
The Maidan protest was peaceful for months . . . I wonder what changed it all? /s
Oh no! Look at those awful Ukrainians utilizing the right to bear arms to resist a tyrannical government.
That must really twist your totalitarian undies.
Small arms are different, the human body is the same as it was 70 years ago, so any bullet will mess your day up. I wouldn't prefer it, but any cartridge firing repeating firearm could suffice in modern combat. That said, if any surplus rifles should be given to the Ukrainians, it should be M-14s and M-16s. However, the Ukraine has plenty of small arms available due to the Cold War years. Millions of AKs plus millions of Mosin-Nagants. Probably the most valuable weapons that we could supply would be anti-tank and anti-air weapons.
I lean in that direction, but I am not honestly sold on it yet.
It may have enough power to cause serious problems we don’t realize right now.
Your admonition is reasoned IMO.
“Your story makes no sense. If Yanokovich was going to resign the presidency immediately, then it would have been made known to the group of people he was negotiating with and become part of the written agreement they all signed. It wasn’t part of the agreement and Yanokovich made no such “announcement”.”
The facts make perfect sense, because the circumstances were rapidly changing in only a period of hours between the negotiated agreement and Yanukovich’s resignation hours later. The mass killings of the protestors, who typically were not armed with anything remotely lethal and often attempting to remove other wounded protestors from the line of sniper fire by the Berkut caused most of the police and military supporters to make it known to Yanukovych they could no longer participate in Yanukovych’s crimes against humanity and were about to stand down from all operations directed against the opposition members of the Verkhovna Rada and the opposition protestors. They also advised Yanukovych much of his own Party of Regions for the same reasons was no longer going to defend the continuation of Yanukovych in office because of the mass killings of the protestors, and the opposition members of parliament were preparing to produce a warrant for the arrest and prosecution of Yanukovych, which actually occurred the following week.
Knowing full well the same evening and following day he was losing the protection of his own political party and that of most of the security and military services other than a few hardcore Ukrainian loyalists and the Russian intelligence agents in the Berkut and other government offices, Yanukovych decided it was time to resign and go into exile before the arrest warrant could be issued and served on him. That is why he agreed to talk with the leaders of the parliament and why agreed to resign as he did before in 2005. See the Russian media report of the resignation by Yanukovych:
Ukrainian parliament passes resolution on Yanukovich’s resignation
Ukraine’s parliament has approved a resolution on the resignation of President Viktor Yanukovych. A total of 328 deputies have noted for the parliament’s resolution. The resolution, which envisages holding presidential elections on May 25, 2014, will come into effect since the parliament has approved the resolution.
The resolution says Yanukovych removed himself from the constitutional powers. “The state cannot depend on the mood of the president, who has removed himself and whose whereabouts are unknown,” Verkhovna Rada speaker Aleksander Turchinov said.
“I want to say at about 15:00 Moscow time we’ve succeeded in contacting Yanukovych. In the presence of deputies Arseny Yatsenyuk (head of the Batkivshchina faction) has talked with him. Yatsenyuk proposed him to resign and he (Yanukovych) agreed,” Turchinov said, adding “Later, talking with other people Yanukovych denied his statement.”
In an interview with UBR television channel, Yanukovych said he considered the events in Ukraine “a coup d’etat”. “I’m going to resign and leave the country,” Yanukovych said.
Yanukovych was afterwards chastised by his Russian intelligence service handlers who warned him he and his family could not be given asylum in Russia if he went forward with his agreement to resign from his office as President of the Ukraine and insisted Yanukovych immediately disavow his agreement to resign.
“The Ukie parliament doesn’t have the power to vote him out unilaterally which is part of the reason the ‘verbal resignation’ story was invented.”
The Verhovna Rada does have the power to accept Yanukovich’s own resignation, and Yanukovych had the duty and responsibility to appeal the decision and acts of the Verkhovna Rada to the Constitutional Court, and he did not do so. Instead, Yanukovych abandoned his duties and his obligation to defend his position in the Constitutional Court, fled arrest and prosecution in a foreign nation engaged in hostilities against the citizens of the Ukraine, and urged Russia to invade the Ukraine. The Verkhovna Rada acted with the authority of the loyal citizens of the Ukraine to restore a constitutional government which Yanukovych and his political supporters usurped with vote fraud and the unlawful “Dictatorship laws.”
Here is the Berkut et al murdering the protestors pursuant to the orders of president yanukovych. I’ve served in the riot control troops, and we would have been prosecuted for murder if we had engaged in the kind of indiscriminate killing of the protestors we see here in these videos.
Here is the Berkut et al murdering the protestors pursuant to the orders of president yanukovych. I’ve served in the riot control troops, and we would have been prosecuted for murder if we had engaged in the kind of indiscriminate killing of the protestors we see here in these videos.
government special forces berkut killing Ukrainian citizens - snipers attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq9zyrmWFQQ
Ukraine crisis: Heavy bombardment in rebel-held Donetsk
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29975341
Really? Which months were those? I'll wait...
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