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To: Fester Chugabrew

We must remember that drugs have no other purpose than making the mind think things that are not real or true.

Drunkenness is when one thinks things that are not real or true.

Acting foolishly, idiotically, being in a stupor.

That is the only purpose of drugs.

I am a cigar smoker, I know that tobacco does not alter my consciousness to think things that are not true or real. I stay in command of my mental faculties when I smoke a cigar.

When I have a scotch with my cigar, it’s about 1 glass per hour or hour and a half. Basically just wetting my lips every few minutes. I do not get drunk, I remain in control of my mental faculties.

I used to go to a tobacco shop where I could have a drink and order food - and I would sit there for several hours with my laptop doing business-related work, while I enjoyed my cigar.

The tobacco is a FLAVOR experience, as is the drink.

Mind altering drugs are not taken for flavor or as a meal.

They are simply drugs that distort reality for the mind.


75 posted on 11/06/2014 9:35:03 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

It is wonderful to know that you are given to self-discipline and serve as an example. I suspect there are many who look at this issue in similar fashion, and yet question whether public policy as it stands is the best way to deal with creation.

I think it is a good point and question to consider: whether mind-altering substances, and using them as a way to self-medicate (from coffee to LSD) constitutes ipso facto in each and every case, an abomination in the sight of God. Christ Jesus explicitly tells the Pharisees: “It is not what enters the body that defiles a man, but what comes out of his heart.”

What we are dealing with are substances that may increase the amount and quality of uncleanliness that comes out of the heart, but then consider this: we have chosen to bind people consciences to thoughts and substances that in many cases the Word of God is silent about. Why should there be a biblical prohibition against seeing a misty field in a way that enhances its beauty? “Wine gladdens the heart of man.” This was not written in condemnation of wine, but in praise of it!


85 posted on 11/06/2014 10:05:55 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

What you are saying, is simply not true.


123 posted on 11/08/2014 7:36:53 AM PST by southernmann
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