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To: Fester Chugabrew
Well, that’s fine. But this thread essentially does not raise heroin as subject to efforts toward legalization, so kindly take your red herring elsewhere.

Both make you "high", that is, they are mind-altering drugs. Biblically, that is a state of drunkenness. The Bible forbids drunkenness.

The Bible is the rule and guide in life for the believer in Christ, and the Christian is directed to live according to the Word of God, the Bible.

If one honestly studies the Bible, one will see this.
45 posted on 11/06/2014 6:49:19 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Thanks for the reply. There are biblical, practical, and civil reasons to refrain from overuse and worship of the creation, not to mention the strict injunction from Above to honor proper authorities “so that you may live long on the earth.”

“All things are clean, but not all things are profitable.” We do not have the authority to declare mind-altering substances “sinful” in and of themselves. We *do* have an obligation to seek what is best for our neighbor in every way so that he may live peaceably.

The biblical prohibitions regarding drunkenness pertain not to simple use, but abuse. Regardless of whether one uses these substances or not, there is enough filthy bilge issuing forth from every man’s heart every moment of the day to merit nothing but death and damnation.

Pointing to careful and thankful participation in certain substances for medicine and recreation on a limited scale is hardly a reason to establish and uphold the strict measures you desire to see enforced upon your neighbors.

All of creation is for our good. The problems come about when proper fear, love, and trust in God is lost. This effects every living being more negatively than anything. “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom.” Participating in mind-altering substances while entertaining the delusion one is self-antonymous is no less dangerous spiritually than refraining from use while under the same delusion.

We may disagree vociferously on this matter, but I still count you as a brother who does not trust in his own righteousness, but that of Christ Jesus, in Whom, and to Whom, and through Whom are all things.


68 posted on 11/06/2014 9:17:02 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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