[Hostage]

A consumption tax is conservative in character.

A retail sales tax is a consumption tax paid by consumers, not businesses.

Here in Washington State there is no income tax. There is a retail sales tax. Liberal western Washington cannot get enough votes to establish an income tax and the Left wants a state income tax bad.

When posters such as yourselves rant against a consumption tax like the Fairtax and argue for an income tax, you’re effectively running a flag up a pole showing you side with the Left.

And don’t spin it that leftists don’t like a flat tax because I know for a fact they welcome it, why?

Because it provides a clean slate to work in the tax changes they want. A flat tax provides an opportunity to start rewriting and amending the income tax. You can’t say “well just forbid any changes” because Congress has the power to make law, to amend it, to change it and there is no constitutional amendment that stops them from changing tax law.

A FLAT TAX NEVER STAYS FLAT.

In fact, there is a constitutional amendment, the 16th, which pretty much allows Congress to do whatever they want for income tax law.

The reason that the income tax is so hopelessly complicated now is because Congress can change it at will. It grows and grows and grows and grows, and the same will happen to any flat tax because a flat tax is an income tax and is the embryonic form of what exists today.

[GeronL]

Stop telling everyone who disagrees you that they are “siding with the left”. Because nobody on FR does. You won’t change any minds with tactics like that.

Go ahead and put in a national sales tax, no prebate. That would be preferable to what we have now. Of course, once the Dems take power again, we’ll get both the income tax and the NST will stay.

The rest is hogwash.

[OneWingedShark]

In fact, there is a constitutional amendment, the 16th, which pretty much allows Congress to do whatever they want for income tax law.

Aye — which is exactly what my tax-reform amendment would correct.