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To: Daveinyork

> For you to assume that all libertarians think the same

You didn’t answer my questions.

The Libertarian Party platform is pretty clear.

Abortion on demand
Marriage Equality
Open Borders
Legalize Dope

The first three are non-starters for me.

The fourth is arguable.

The business aspects of their platform seem sound, but are compromised by the Marriage Equality and Open Borders aspects.


34 posted on 10/27/2014 8:59:19 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

I can only answer for myself. Can you tell me what all conservatives believe, about, say the Islamic threat and what to do about it?


35 posted on 10/27/2014 9:17:19 AM PDT by Daveinyork ( Marbury vs.Madison was the biggest power grab in American history.)
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To: Westbrook; Daveinyork

I, myself, have problems with a few of their platforms (and many, IMHO, are people too ignorant to actually READ the platform, but parrot instead); but that doesn’t make it a non-starter.

Do you not vote (R)? Are you one of the lesser-of-two crowd? The same party that has openly defied their base by wishing to pass ‘immigration reform’, had yet to pass a budget, have done NOTHING to reverse Roe vs. Wade.....Which of the plethora of (R) stabbings would finally bring about the ‘one issue voter’/non-starters to open their eyes (IE: Saying to ‘fixed’ their stance on abortion?. Would THAT bring you around, finally?)

1) Abortion - this, IMHO, is their greatest failing. A pregnancy, taken to term (no other intervention or problems - miscarriage/etc.) produces a human child. That same child began at conception of 2 other people (IE: The gene sequence of this new entity is UNIQUE = new Person). ‘Moms’ Rights ended at conception - aka actions have consequences.

2) Marriage Equality - effects nothing in any others’ life. Get gov’t out of the biz and favortism, taxes, etc. Same sex couples, walking down the street, with no sign of affection (EG: holding hands) would not even be noticed vs. ‘the girls/guys on the town’. One wishes to bring up adoption/wills/etc. - those are different debates.

3) Borders - open != free for all. (L) recognize the need to police the border, not turn a blind eye. Here’s where, again MHO, people just parrot w/out reading. With the repeal of the Great Society plans (which (L) harp on, but (R) NEVER talk about anymore) it matters little that ‘visitors’ come across our borders...little else would keep them here for long.

4) Legalization - 9th/10th. What’s the problem here? Either you are for Constitutional limits, or you are not. Either you believe in Free Men, or wards of the State. If not drugs, why alcohol, why tobacco? If your denial is based on ‘price to society’, why not how much you weigh or hobbies you partake. First question I always ask “Whom owns you” - and it seqgues nicely into the repeal of the 16th and a Flat/income tax

Still, I could not vote for any (D), and only limited times for (R), as they but talk about Liberty and Freedom. The (R) have not even ATTEMPTED to roll-back even ONE rule/regulation from the Fed. leviathan....Yet the (L) are branded from the losses of the (R). I would rather ‘throw’ my vote to a party that preaches the return of Independence and Rights of men than to one whom I have seen actively work against the same (DHS, TSA, ‘comprehensive’/open borders, etc.)


36 posted on 10/27/2014 9:39:43 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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