Posted on 10/19/2014 6:49:50 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
Germany does about-face on refusal to grant 30-percent discount for vessels
Germany has agreed to slash about one-third off the price of three fast missile boats, which Israel wants to buy, putting to rest a crisis between the two countries.
he vessels, priced at almost $1 billion, are intended to protect the gas rigs off Israels shore. According to the daily Haaretz, Israel had asked for a 30-percent discount such as it had received on the purchase of German submarines.
But at the beginning of May, Germans national security adviser Christoph Heusgen told his Israeli counterpart Yossi Cohen following the breakdown in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks and Germany's harsh criticism of Israels construction in the settlements, the Bundestag would not approve a grant of hundreds of millions of euros to subsidize the boats.
But at the end of June German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier reportedly told his visiting Israeli counterpart Avigdor Lieberman, "don't worry, it will be ok."
Israeli officials told Haaretz there were several factors, which influenced Germany's about-face.
One official said Lieberman deserves most of the credit, for forging close cooperation with Steinmeier, who pushed to advance the deal in Germany.
Another official said Finance Minister Yair Lapids visit in Berlin for talks with German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble was extremely helpful in advancing the deal in its last stages.
Lapid also met Heusgen and told him he was trying to restrain Israels money transfers to the settlements, Haaretz said.
Another official said the Germans understood that the missile boats were a vital security necessity for Israel. Cohen, who held talks with Heusgen and other German officials, told them there was a real threat that Hezbollah would attack the gas rigs.
Germany also has an economic interest in the sale for the shipyards. It stood to lose the deal to South Korea, where Israel also inquired about buying the ships in case it didn't get the desired discount.
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If Israel has natural gas...
Germany will not freeze...
and its industry will continue.
Period ( ; )
Like Woody Allen said-— “My family bought wholesale, we always had relatives in the business”
Wooo, go Germany.
And here we are, freezing assets when Israel has to kick Muslim Brotherhood ass.
$6 million per boat discount? Just a guess.
Why did G-d invent Gentiles?
SOMEBODY has to buy retail!
Not to mention young, wealthy Israelis fleeing to Germany to avoid near-confiscatory tax rates.
In the same vein but funnier. From back when many Jews had retail businesses. With all the Walmarts and similar operations this is really more in the past. Today Jewish parents want their children to become credentialed professionals like MD or shrink or f’n lawyer...or MBA from a solid school
Will they work? Is this payback for the imprisoned Jews intentionally making failed munitions and equipment during WW2?
It the 3 boats together cost approx 1 billion. Then the discount is on the order of 300 million total or 100 million per boat.
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John Kerry will not be pleased, nor will his boss. This, after Israel aiding ISIS in recruiting.
Its either a discount or the risk of losing a contract to South Korean builders, so they will work.
And the USA would do well to buy 50 of them.
It's a Frigate. And a nice one too.
As you already know there is no agreed scheme of nomenclature and some of it is role based, some of it tradition.
But in my little world:
Corvette - less than 150ft and 1000 tons.
Frigate 200-350FT and less than 4000 tons.
Destroyer - 300-400ft and less than 8000 tons.
Cruiser - 400-500ft and less than 15000 tons. (Obviously this characterizes all the new Aegis "Destroyers" in service today and they should rightly be called Cruisers at 10000 tons)
Boats - All submarines of any displacement and day craft/landing craft/river and littoral patrol. PLUS anything the Coast Guard sails:).
After 15000tons it's all role-based. Carrier or defunct Battleship.
But could you imagine a 45T, 700ft "Balttleship" with all that steel armor...AND 396 VLS tubes?
Thanks, that makes sense to me.
Germany does about-face on refusal to grant 30-percent discount for vessels... intended to protect the gas rigs off Israels shore... at the beginning of May, Germans national security adviser Christoph Heusgen told his Israeli counterpart Yossi Cohen following the breakdown in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks and Germany's harsh criticism of Israels construction in the settlements, the Bundestag would not approve a grant of hundreds of millions of euros to subsidize the boats.Germany isn't keen to have to fight another war in an Islamic desert hellhole. An Israeli company will be selling natural gas to an Egyptian company supplying non-governmental [sic] customers in Egypt. Egypt's in a fight with ISIS and is literally surrounded by Iran's and Sudan's jihadist terror outfits. The Saudis and UAE (both allies of Egypt) are dropping bombs on ISIS in Iraq and bringing up the world petroleum supply, helping the German and EU economy, while undermining the major threat to the peace in Europe, Putin.
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